Posted on 10/04/2008 1:58:23 AM PDT by Quaker
Biden the cheapskate vs. Sarah Palin & The first Dude. Who is more Charitable. It aint Joe. The Palins made considerably less than Joe Biden in the last two years according to their tax returns yet they gave more to charity than Biden did in 8 years. So much for the generosity of the liberal Dems.
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Still 8 thousand is pretty dismal. I was surprised that it was not more. I give more than that and I don’t make six figures.
I don’t have five growing children, do you? Plus, it surely costs money to run a commercial fishing company and pay the expenses of being the governor of a very large state (entertaining, travel, etc.)
No I have four children under ten. I am in the military so it is not like I am rolling in the dough. entertaining and travel is reimbursed! She also does not have a morgage.
She doesn’t have a mortgage on her home in Wasilla? Do you have a link? Or do you mean that the governor’s mansion is free of charge? As my user name implies, I once served in the military and understand what you’re saying, but when you coerce someone to give more than they do of their own free will, then it’s no longer “charity”, is it? Compared to Senators Biden, Obama and the last democratic first and second families (donating & writing-off used underwear?!) the Palin’s are very generous, wouldn’t you say?
Yes I do and I love Sarah and her family, but I just am not one to think they are 1000 percent perfect that is all. I am glad that John McCain and Sarah are going to win the election...I definitely believe this, but I also believe that at times we are going to be frustrated with McCain especially during the next 4 to 8 years. I just want us to use reality in this whole thing too. Yes Sarah is wonderful, but she is not perfect, that is all....oh, I am not either. lol.
Do you have five children, and one with special needs?
People giving more than 10% of their GROSS income annually (the tithe), as I understand you are saying you do, is not the norm no matter how many kids they have. According to justgive.org the avg. American gives 3.1% of their gross to charity and one thing that is true is that people who don’t have the most often give more. If only everyone were as generous as you and the Palin’s!
I don’t like these comparisons...Biden has had some pretty tough days (his wife and child dying)...I couldn’t imagine going through that, so I give the man a break. Now attacking his policies is another matter...
Just because a person doesn’t give a “lot” doesn’t mean they haven’t given with some “pain” - some people who have given much could give easily more but they don’t have the inclination to do so. The man who says he’s under 6 figures, 4 kids and giving at least 10% of his gross to charity is admirable in many ways...he’s probably very disciplined in his personal spending and has made giving an important part of his life. I’ll bet he’s personally sacrificed for that charity but he probably doesn’t look at it like that.
People who don’t seem to have given a “lot” is not for another to judge...I am in non-profit fundraising and I know the value of a $25 gift - there is high competition for donor dollars and any gift is a great gift. Some people give more in TIME than they do in dollars but the idea is to give. GIVE BABY GIVE.
P.S. Hockey fees aren’t cheap. :)
Do you have five children, and one with special needs?
Why are you questioning me after I was upfront with how many children I have already through this thread. God I hate people who can’t read. I HAVE FOUR CHILDREN...NONE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AT THIS TIME, BUT MY WIFE AND I DID NOT HAVE CHILDREN IN OUR FORTIES YET...WE ARE NOT FORTY YET.
Naps...one word for you...529 :) (I’m guessing you already know that or have another plan....your fiscal discipline is truly admirable - to be able to give what you give is a great example).
Hey...speaking of giving...has everyone donated to our beloved FR?
“You are getting that from some place other than Scripture”
You are correct, I am not quoting scripture nor would I.
I am however quoting parish priests who have drilled it into our brains for as long as I can remember...and in my parents’ brains...and in my grandparents...
You don’t like these comparisons? Joe Biden makes $3 Million over the past ten years and has given around $4,000 in charity in those ten years? Sarah Palin and her husband made $300K over the past two years and have given $3800 in that period?
And Joe Biden says: it’s patriotic to pay taxes! Get in the game!!!!!
Finally, yes, he suffered a tragedy 36 years ago. Time to move on, especially if you’re in politics. Did Joe show any kind of human decency to Robert Bork or Clarence Thomas?
Joe Biden: Plugs For Slugs!
I hear ya...I am sure he’s moved on, but that kind of tragedy never leaves you and its never far behind...but yes, politically it is open season. I just think going after him for charitable giving or lack thereof is nobody’s business. I am going to take a guess here and say that I think Joe would give up his salary, senate seat, and everything else to have his wife and kid back...
Y'see Biden gave away YOUR money! And he gave away WAY more of our money than the piddling Palins gave of theirs. So that makes him WAY more charitable.
(Why do I not believe this?)
LOL! If I wanted a sermon I’d go to church, I never said I was imprisoned by their words so sssssshhhhhh and read........I commented that the 10% ... commonly referred to as the tithe..is not commonly achieved. The man who said he is achieving that benchmark is to be admired. That’s it, end of point. I don’t need scripture crammed down my throat otherwise I’ll answer the door the next time the LDS come a knockin’
You are much more charitable that Joe Biden...
Are you supporting five kids? Just askin’...
People, me included, answer at the top of the post, not after reading the entire answer section, which is constantly added to. Nobody is piling on you, we’re just in catch-up mode.
And, thank you for your service! All of my children were military, my grandchildren are, and it’s really tough. We can’t thank you enough for giving yourself to your country.
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I dont like these comparisons...Biden has had some pretty tough days (his wife and child dying)...I couldnt imagine going through that, so I give the man a break. Now attacking his policies is another matter..”
That subject is fair game because of Biden. He lied about the incident and accused an innocent man of ‘killing’ his wife and child while drunk! A lie which he spread publically until last year when he was called on it.
...10% is the tithe “commonly referred to” as I said...I did not say it was the literal definition or word origin. I understand you are trying to make this about the scripture. I however am not, did not and will not.
The point, if you read the full thread, was I will not judge the man based on his charity donations...he has had a terrible tragedy that will change anybody. We can go after him on his politics and vision for Amerika.
Since he believes his wife and child were killed by a drunk driver it seems he might wish to donate lots of money, maybe even to MADD.
I don’t understand your reasoning, but that’s alright. You don’t understand mine either.
And, thank you for your service! All of my children were military, my grandchildren are, and its really tough. We cant thank you enough for giving yourself to your country.
Thank you too. Wow you are a great parent and grandparent!
That's a really odd bit of reasoning. Why is Biden's charitable giving more related to his wife's death than his politics and vision?
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