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Is Ethanol In Fuel a Crime Against Humanity?
The Virginian ^ | 7/5/2008 | Moneyrunner

Posted on 07/05/2008 6:27:28 AM PDT by moneyrunner

UH-OH: Secret report: biofuel caused food crisis.

Secret report: biofuel caused food crisis

Biofuels have forced global food prices up by 75% - far more than previously estimated - according to a confidential World Bank report obtained by the Guardian.

The damning unpublished assessment is based on the most detailed analysis of the crisis so far, carried out by an internationally-respected economist at global financial body. . . .

"Political leaders seem intent on suppressing and ignoring the strong evidence that biofuels are a major factor in recent food price rises," said Robert Bailey, policy adviser at Oxfam.

Perhaps they just fear being tried for crimes against humanity.

SO WHEN DOES THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT GET INVOLVED? We've already heard that pro-biofuels policies in Europe are a "crime against humanity" according to UN Special Rapporteur for the Right to Food Jean Ziegler.

Now Al Gore's acting nervous:

(Excerpt) Read more at moneyrunner.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Food; Politics
KEYWORDS: energy; environment; ethanol; foodsupply; gasoline; gasprices; oil
I’m waiting for the Looney left who are constantly calling Bush a war criminal and seeking an international criminal indictment of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and others in this administration to begin the hue and cry for putting Al Gore and the rest of the Democrats (and Republicans) in Congress on the dock. Starving the world’s people seems like a pretty serious crime.

Get the ropes and pitchforks ready, I’m in.

1 posted on 07/05/2008 6:27:28 AM PDT by moneyrunner
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

2 posted on 07/05/2008 6:28:12 AM PDT by steelyourfaith
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To: moneyrunner

3 posted on 07/05/2008 6:31:06 AM PDT by edzo4
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4 posted on 07/05/2008 6:31:14 AM PDT by xcamel (Being on the wrong track means the unintended consequences express train doesnt kill you going by)
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To: moneyrunner
There's no up side to producing ethanol; it's about the same thing as producing PCP or crack cocaine.

The basic idea was to provide an oxygenate to try to clean the air in Californicatia but the problem there is caused by millionaires driving around in 60s cars with Holley carburators. On the east coast when you see somebody driving around in a 30 - 50 year old car it's invariably an immigrant or a student who can't afford anything else.

5 posted on 07/05/2008 6:32:26 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: steelyourfaith
It was well known that it cost more to produce ethanol than the benefit obtained.

The Dem agenda...ruin the oil companies, ruin logging companies, ruin the school system, kill the babies...

Not one damn thing that's good for the country will stand when they're done with us.

6 posted on 07/05/2008 6:34:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: moneyrunner

couldn’t they use kudzu for ethanol?


7 posted on 07/05/2008 6:38:06 AM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: moneyrunner

I thought putting CO2 in the air was a crime against humanity. Can’t anyone get it straight exactly how I am to kill every human on the planet already?


8 posted on 07/05/2008 6:42:39 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: ken21

Now that would be a good answer. You’d have enough fuel to run the country in 3.2 days.


9 posted on 07/05/2008 6:43:33 AM PDT by autumnraine
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To: autumnraine

The CO2 in corn was taken from the atmosphere, so in that sense ethanol is carbon neutral.

It’s still a catastrophically bad idea. Ethanol was the Greenies’ most plausible agenda item and it’s literally been a catastrophe. Nothing can discredit their agenda in the eyes of the LSM.


10 posted on 07/05/2008 6:48:28 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Hillary to Obama: Arkancide happens.)
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To: moneyrunner
Starving the world’s people seems like a pretty serious crime.

Starving the world’s POOR people seems like a pretty serious crime.

11 posted on 07/05/2008 6:50:27 AM PDT by alrea (ethanol stops global warming with starvation)
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To: moneyrunner
Woody Harrelson’s head is going to explode.
12 posted on 07/05/2008 6:58:45 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: moneyrunner

Who cares what the UN says. They are a useless anti-American organization.

Ethanol is stupid idea, we don’t need the UN to tell us that.


13 posted on 07/05/2008 6:59:32 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

by that logic the oil in the ground used to be plants also


14 posted on 07/05/2008 7:04:20 AM PDT by edzo4
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To: alrea
You want to help world hunger?

Stop sending them food.

Don't send them another bite, send them U-Hauls.

Send them a guy that says,

"You know, we've been coming here giving you food for about 45 years now and we were driving through the desert, and we realized there wouldn't BE world hunger if you people would live where the FOOD IS!

YOU LIVE IN A DESERT!!

UNDERSTAND THAT?

YOU LIVE IN A F**KING DESERT!!

NOTHING GROWS HERE! NOTHING'S GONNA GROW HERE!

Come here, Come here, you see this?

This is sand.

You know what it's gonna be 100 years from now? IT'S GONNA BE SAND!!

YOU LIVE IN A F**KING DESERT!

We have deserts in America, we just don't live in them, a$$hole!"

Sam Kinison 1953 – 1992

15 posted on 07/05/2008 7:13:06 AM PDT by edzo4
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To: edzo4

True. Apparently to “environmentalists” the whole idea is for the actions of humans to have no net effect, at least when measured on the a timescale of decades. It’s idiotic, it’s simplistic, it’s infantile and therefore it inevitably attracts conmen, grifters, the self deluded, promoters and politicians. (These five classes are not at all disjoint.) Politicians usually incorporate the worst features of the other four classes.


16 posted on 07/05/2008 7:19:50 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Hillary to Obama: Arkancide happens.)
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To: moneyrunner

The relationship of price to the law of supply and demand driven home with a vengeance.

Even a small decrease in the supply of some commodity, with the demand remaining essentially unchanged, has an inordinate effect on the price of that commodity. You see, the supply of FOOD grains was decreased, diverted to a new use for that commodity, while no corresponding change in the original use was effected. But the NEW use of the commodity, to make ethanol, and thus divert from the food supply a considerable amount of carbohydrate, has a multiplier effect. Sure, there are brewer’s grains, the dried mash, which still has food value, but did you ever TASTE that stuff? It makes tofu seem delicious. Cows don’t mind eating it, because it may have a tang they develop a taste for, like ensiled crops, which undergo an anaerobic fermentation in storage, and generate a considerable amount of propanic acid (silage is as sour as dill pickles, for those of you who don’t know). Also, no cow would consume brewer’s grains by itself, normally it is mixed as part of a ration including other ground grains.

But there has been a LARGE disruption of the amount of food grains diverted for the purposes of making ethanol. Every acre of corn taken from the food supply chain, and every other acre of cropland diverted from production of soybeans or wheat, is that many acres less that are available for food production. The expansion into marginal lands to grow more corn (or other food grains), is land that was taken out of production in the first place because it IS marginal, and not likely to sustain the huge per-acre production demanded of economical corn cultivation. This marginal land may only produce, say, 85 bushels to the acre, where to be economic, the corn ground has to be producing 200+ bushels per acre, a figure that in 1960 would have been considered some sort of world’s record.

Human beings cannot eat grass, or the hay which is made from the cuttings of various kinds of grass, as it is largely fiber, mostly indigestible by the human system. Cows and horses can eat hay just fine, because they have adaptations in their digestive tract that contain huge numbers of symbiotic bacteria that break down the fiber into usable carbohydrates, and also form and combine these digested products into protein. But some farmland is only FIT to produce hay or the small grains (oats, wheat, rye, barley), as either it is too easily eroded, or the topsoil is too thin to sustain a solid corn crop.

Earth in the balance, indeed. Al Gore has not looked beyond the length of his own nose, yet.


17 posted on 07/05/2008 7:35:50 AM PDT by alloysteel (A taxpayer voting for Obama - is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.)
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To: edzo4
by that logic the oil in the ground used to be plants also

YES!

All carbon that is in fuels we use was once in the atmosphere..........and the WORLD DID NOT END THEN and IT WILL NOT END THIS TIME EITHER.

I am for coal and nuclear plants, and using petroleum. Start drilling and opening new coal and uranium mines.

18 posted on 07/05/2008 7:52:43 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: autumnraine

You haven’t seen my backyard.


19 posted on 07/05/2008 9:01:45 AM PDT by AUsome Joy
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To: moneyrunner

Corn belongs on my dinner plate, not my gas tank.

DRILL HERE, DRILL NOW, PAY LESS.

peace :)


20 posted on 07/05/2008 7:57:38 PM PDT by TheRobb7 (Mutiny at the Convention: The Last, Best Hope for Conservatives in '08)
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To: driftdiver

We need the UN because... they tell our limosime liberals what to think and how to vote.

And if the UN says ethanol is bad, then the Democrats won’t reflexively block any conservative movement to end the program.

Not that there are any conservatives in the Republican party...


21 posted on 07/05/2008 10:49:31 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: moneyrunner
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Secret report: biofuel caused food crisis

Biofuels have forced global food prices up by 75% - far more than previously estimated - according to a confidential World Bank report obtained by the Guardian.

The damning unpublished assessment is based on the most detailed analysis of the crisis so far, carried out by an internationally-respected economist at global financial body. . . .

"Political leaders seem intent on suppressing and ignoring the strong evidence that biofuels are a major factor in recent food price rises," said Robert Bailey, policy adviser at Oxfam.

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THIS, I believe. It is especially believable since the Demodogs and UN weenies deny it to be the case.


22 posted on 07/06/2008 8:04:36 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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