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Republicans still do not get it
The Conservative Revolution ^ | 5-19-08 | Brendan Steinhauser

Posted on 05/19/2008 4:27:55 PM PDT by bstein80

The Republicans in Congress continue to baffle me. They are spending all of their time trying to use the marketing tool of “re-branding” the party, while at the same time they refuse to vote against terrible public policy. The most recent example is the disastrous farm bill that the Senate passed overwhelmingly. The House has already passed the bill, and although President Bush will veto it, Congress will likely override the veto.

As long as the Republicans in Congress pay lip service to conservatism while voting like liberals, they deserve to lose in November. Those leading the Republicans down the wrong path include Senator McConnell, Rep. Thad McCotter and Rep. Roy Blunt. They should be replaced by principled conservatives like Senator Jim DeMint, Rep. Paul Ryan and Rep. Jeb Hensarling. The party will lose 20 seats in the House, 6 in the Senate and the presidency if it continues to vote for liberal policies. Conservatives should put more pressure on the Republican leadership in Congress and not buy into all this “re-branding” talk until they actually begin to advance conservative ideas.


TOPICS: Agriculture
KEYWORDS: 110th; agriculture; farmbill; federalspending; gop; rebranding

1 posted on 05/19/2008 4:27:55 PM PDT by bstein80
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To: bstein80

“As long as the Republicans in Congress pay lip service to conservatism while voting like liberals, they deserve to lose in November.”

Deserves repeating.


2 posted on 05/19/2008 4:29:46 PM PDT by Grunthor (Juan agrees with Ted Kennedy on Amnesty, Gore on GW & says Hillary'd be a good POTUS)
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To: bstein80

They get it all rigght. They got the message in Nov 2006. The Party is over.


3 posted on 05/19/2008 4:31:23 PM PDT by RightWhale (You are reading this now)
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To: bstein80
If McCain wants the support of conservatives, now and through November, then he needs to do what every politician seeking the support of any given voting bloc routinely does, and meet their specifically vocalized needs to such an extent as to earn said support.

As the recent outpouring of raw, naked outrage on the NRCC web site makes both manifest and plain: insofar as the voting conservative base is concerned, he demonstrably has not done so.

Responsibility for the adamant rejection of John McCain by the conservative voting bloc, therefore, rests ultimately with the unsatisfactory candidate, and he alone.

It does no good whatsoever to hop up and down like so many amphetamined spider monkeys, agitatedly shrilling "OBAMA! OBAMA! OBAMAOBAMAOBAMA!!!," as Barack Obama is not running as the Republican candidate for the presidency this year; McCain is. He either closes the deal himself, based on his ability to persuade conservatives what he himself has to offer them (if anything)... or: he does not.

4 posted on 05/19/2008 4:33:22 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: bstein80

5 posted on 05/19/2008 4:40:01 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the girly-man population. Have the McCainiacs spayed or neutered.)
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To: bstein80
Republicans know exactly what they are doing. Those who say the GOP doesn't get it are the people who don't understand. The GOP’s agenda is to expand it's voter base by appeasing the socialist left and conservatives be damned.
6 posted on 05/19/2008 4:44:50 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: JoJo Gunn

I think that an argument can be made that McCain (and Arnold for that matter) are NOT RINOs. They ARE Republicans, that is, what the Republican party has become. Which means the party of the Center.

So the answer is for a new political party to form. Call it the Conservative Party, which will stand for:

1. Low Taxes
2. Secure the Borders
3. Strong Military.
4. Against same-sex marriage
5. Energy self-sufficiency (drill in ANWR, coastal, etc.)

Maybe by the next election, this will come to pass.


7 posted on 05/19/2008 4:45:57 PM PDT by Bobkk47
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To: Bobkk47

The only quibble you’ll get from me is that they’re several steps past the center.


8 posted on 05/19/2008 4:58:05 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the girly-man population. Have the McCainiacs spayed or neutered.)
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To: bstein80

Congress should run against Obama. Just replay Obama’s recent rant about the necessity of getting rid of SUV’s, not having the thermostat set at 72 and so forth. Heady and powerful stuff in certain Congressional districts.

Play up no drilling in Anwar, no nuclear power, no use of coal and so on down the line. Especially, in states where these issues count—Alaska, etc. Also, run against ethanol and earmarks with appropriate statements from RAT congress people.


9 posted on 05/19/2008 5:00:26 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: bstein80

The new home of Reagan Conservatism is here:

http://falconparty.com/


10 posted on 05/19/2008 5:35:37 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: bstein80
Republican Solutions and a Positive Agenda (Barf Alert by Tom Cole)

Over 1,600 responses from angry conservatives at the NRCC blog.

11 posted on 05/19/2008 5:38:58 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Bipartisanship: Two wolves and the American people deciding what's for dinner)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

LOL. Love it.


12 posted on 05/19/2008 5:47:55 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
http://falconparty.com/

Are you Falconetti?


13 posted on 05/19/2008 5:47:58 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister
No, but I did see a rerun of Falcon Crest once....


14 posted on 05/19/2008 5:52:50 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
You called, man...? ;)


15 posted on 05/19/2008 9:13:03 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: bstein80
The most recent example is the disastrous farm bill that the Senate passed overwhelmingly.

Just more evidence that the once-vaunted RINO Party still doesn't get it. The party of the big spending RINO's needs to douche its current crop of so called leader(less)s or simply rename their party as the official RINO Party, a division of the Socialist Democrat Party.

16 posted on 05/20/2008 3:45:22 AM PDT by Ron H. (A lesser evil candidate is still an evil candidate even if it's a Republican!)
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To: JoJo Gunn
I like it!


KIng RINO

17 posted on 05/20/2008 3:49:19 AM PDT by Ron H. (A lesser evil candidate is still an evil candidate even if it's a Republican!)
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To: JoJo Gunn

That’s a great one!


18 posted on 05/20/2008 3:51:52 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Man50D

“Republicans know exactly what they are doing. Those who say the GOP doesn’t get it are the people who don’t understand. The GOP’s agenda is to expand it’s voter base by appeasing the socialist left and conservatives be damned.”

You have nailed it!


19 posted on 05/20/2008 3:52:45 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: JoJo Gunn
The only quibble you’ll get from me is that they’re several steps past the center.

I agree. They are indeed to the left of the political center and are inching incrementally more so to that socialist left with each passing day. If they go any further they may as well drop the charade and just revert back to their former selves, as disgruntled Democrats. I mean that's all RINO's are anyway, former disgruntled Democrats who abandoned their sinking ship when it was sinking back in the 90's and it so chic to become a Republican in order to get elected.

20 posted on 05/20/2008 4:00:16 AM PDT by Ron H. (A lesser evil candidate is still an evil candidate even if it's a Republican!)
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To: JoJo Gunn
Getting out while the getting is good.

Getting out while the getting is good.


BTW. I liked your 'About page'.

21 posted on 05/20/2008 4:22:12 AM PDT by Ron H. (A lesser evil candidate is still an evil candidate even if it's a Republican!)
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To: bstein80

Contrary..I’m afraid that THEY DO get it...its us that don’t..

In my mind, I keep coming back to what happened to Tom Delay.....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1802383/posts

Washington is so jammed with parasites looking for a teat...that ANY organized opposition-IOW any Conservatives-will be run out of town . Period. This, folks, is a far BIGGER problem than just one with the Republican leadership.

Pay attention the the Farm Bill that just passed. Its not the average American Joe that is demanding handouts that’s driving the bus here.

It’s any large organization that has the cash to buy a few K St. lobbyists to twist congress’ arm. The boys on Capitol Hill that are unresponsive to said arm twisting...well these organizations can afford to make sure they’re replaced in the next election cycle-and in fact, with what the new boys will send them legislatively will far more than make up for the cost of replacing a recalcitrant congresscritter. We American’s have a far bigger problem on our hands here than any of us could possibly imagine in our worst nightmare.

In other words....the corporate money driving this scam is so great and powerful...that politicos feel the need to play ball. Or else.


22 posted on 05/20/2008 4:32:34 AM PDT by mo
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To: Ron H.; caver

Thank y’all!


23 posted on 05/20/2008 4:37:54 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the girly-man population. Have the McCainiacs spayed or neutered.)
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To: Ron H.

Another stunner. Ramirez has fast become one of the best in my eyes. Look at the detail he puts into each one.

All those on my “home page” is so I’ll remember the links. :)

(Don’t know who made the one about whuppin’ a hippie. It’s a favorite).


24 posted on 05/20/2008 4:43:30 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the girly-man population. Have the McCainiacs spayed or neutered.)
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To: JoJo Gunn
Another stunner. Ramirez has fast become one of the best in my eyes. Look at the detail he puts into each one.

I like him as well. I also like Wayne Stayskals cartoons but for a different reason though.

25 posted on 05/20/2008 7:44:53 AM PDT by Ron H. (A lesser evil candidate is still an evil candidate even if it's a Republicrat!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
If McCain wants the support of conservatives, now and through November, then he needs to do what every politician seeking the support of any given voting bloc routinely does, and meet their specifically vocalized needs to such an extent as to earn said support.

McCain has made me very angry in the past, especially on immigration (I can't for the life of me figure out why he's so deluded on this topic), but to his credit, he voted against this POS Farm Bill. He also vocally opposed ethanol subsidies, while campaigning in Iowa. That takes guts.

McCain's fiscal conservatism is beginning to win me over, I must say.

But I'm still very concerned about his stances on immigration and foreign policy.

26 posted on 05/21/2008 5:19:09 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
McCain's fiscal conservatism is beginning to win me over, I must say.

Might wanna check that.

27 posted on 05/21/2008 6:02:44 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (If McCain really CAN "win without conservatives," then why do you care if I vote for him or not?)
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To: Man50D
The GOP’s agenda is to expand it's voter base by appeasing the socialist left and conservatives be damned.

Baloney. The GOP couldn't care less about "expanding it's voter base." The GOP is interested in the same old that the 'rats are interested in...incumbents feathering their own nests at taxpayer expense, and hopefully hanging on for one more election cycle.

Public interest? Principle? Sorry, the GOP can't hear you. But please send money anyway.

28 posted on 05/21/2008 6:13:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I hate McCain's stance on immigration, but that bill actually makes some sense. The Federal government forces hospital ERs to treat anyone who comes in, regardless of legal status or ability to pay. That's a really bad law, and signing it was one of Reagan's mistakes (the 1986 amenesty was another big one). However, so long as we have this law on the books, it amounts to a huge unfunded mandate, and it seems only fair that the Feds reimburse hospitals for the costs of treating patients they force them to treat.
29 posted on 05/21/2008 7:09:51 PM PDT by curiosity
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