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Could Conspiracies, Including the Kennedy Assassination and Others, Survive in Time of Internet?
RFFM.org ^ | April 19, 2008 | Daniel T. Zanoza

Posted on 04/19/2008 1:21:06 PM PDT by Daniel T. Zanoza

AUTHOR'S NOTE: For a number of weeks, RFFM.org will write a series of columns on the conspiracies which have helped to form the world we live in today. From the killers themselves to the media's role in conspiracies, RFFM.org will attempt to separate the wheat from the chaff. There will be no discussions of flying saucers, USO's (unidentified submerged objects) or the like in this series. RFFM.org encourages readers to submit intelligent comments about the existence of conspiracies and, who knows, perhaps one of the real killers of JFK might actually write in.

Now, before I start receiving weird comments about strange things, let me make one thing perfectly clear. I don't believe aliens landed in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947. I don't believe thousands of people are being abducted by little gray men every year and I don't believe President George Bush knew that two of the most important buildings in the financial world would be attacked on 9/11 and didn't do anything about it. Folks, that would be the last place a capitalist nation would have destroyed.

However, I think it's almost a certainty that John F. Kennedy was the victim of a conspiracy that took his life on November 22, 1963. I also believe ...

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; Conspiracy; History; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; jfkassassination; johnfkennedy; kennedyassassination; leeharveyoswald; martinlutherking
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1 posted on 04/19/2008 1:21:06 PM PDT by Daniel T. Zanoza
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To: Daniel T. Zanoza
Could Conspiracies, Including the Kennedy Assassination and Others, Survive in Time of Internet?

Not only will they survive, but they will reproduce, and get new life cycles every two years. The Truthers are at seven years and counting, they're about to enter a new cycle.

2 posted on 04/19/2008 1:23:24 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Old Sarge

Survive, and thrive, and proliferate at the speed of signal propagation.


3 posted on 04/19/2008 1:24:36 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: RightWhale

yep. nothing gets out of the web. until the databases die.


4 posted on 04/19/2008 1:26:39 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (to love New York is to love humanity.)
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To: Daniel T. Zanoza; Quix

Well I guess that leaves Quix out.
/sarcasm buddy


5 posted on 04/19/2008 1:28:50 PM PDT by Global2010 (Prayer Bump for Catholic Freeper Salvation)
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To: Daniel T. Zanoza

Interesting idea.

Thanks for posting the article/link Daniel.


6 posted on 04/19/2008 1:29:41 PM PDT by Global2010 (Prayer Bump for Catholic Freeper Salvation)
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To: Old Sarge
A certain person once told me that he was angry because “his President” had been assassinated.

That person then showed me information about what happened in Dallas and showed me (and others) how to find more information for myself to help me with my skepticism.

I was 14 years old and that was closer to 40 years ago than I care to admit.

I've done some homework.

JFK was murdered as the result of a conspiracy and the folks responsible for the Warren Commission report ought to be held in disgrace for ever. That includes Justice Warren, President Ford, Senator Spector, et al.

7 posted on 04/19/2008 1:32:55 PM PDT by Radix (Sometimes a post is just a post.)
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To: Daniel T. Zanoza

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/confession2.htm


8 posted on 04/19/2008 1:37:47 PM PDT by Lexington Green (The Rev. Jeremiah Wright = Grand Wizard of the Klan-With-A-Tan)
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To: Radix

If you go to the Kennedy assassination sites you’ll see a relatively new movie taken on that day. Held back for years, it shows the Secret Service being called off JFK’s limo a few minutes before the start of his last motorcade.

You can see one SS man literally throwing up his hands in wonderment at the order.

Anybody that studies the assassination for much more than an hour understands that the fix was in.

After reading Robert Caro’s MASTER OF THE SENATE, I became convinced that LBJ was capable of ANYTHING. Hoover, too hated Kennedy. Hoffa, likely involved. Johnny Roselli, Charles Nicoletti, all likely.

Just read about Jack Ruby’s contacts the two weeks before the assassination...leaves no doubt that he was a mafia bagman...and deeply involved in plotting the murder.


9 posted on 04/19/2008 1:44:55 PM PDT by kjo
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To: Radix

“JFK was murdered as the result of a conspiracy and the folks responsible for the Warren Commission report ought to be held in disgrace for ever.”

This stuff would be quite funny if it wasn’t a serious subject.

Anyway, in my humble opinion Earl Warren, whatever you think of his liberal jurisprudence ( and I don’t care for it ), was a gentleman of the old school. When his own father was murdered he, as Alameda county prosecutor, let the only suspect go due to insufficient evidence. Chief Justice Warren would never have participated in a cover-up of Kennedy’s murder, and neither would Gerald Ford, Richard Russell (who expressed his doubts in the final report), and the other eminent gentlemen who participated in the commission. And it’s also hard for me to imagine Attorney General Robert Kennedy saying and doing nothing about a cover-up of his own brother’s murder.

We live in an age in which it has become extremely difficult to distinguish fact from fiction, reality from fantasy. As Michael Crichton has noted, we live in the age of disinformation.


10 posted on 04/19/2008 2:10:14 PM PDT by devere (http://www.usmm.net/p2/thiswar.jpg)
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To: Radix

I have done lots of homework also, and I’m convinced you are correct.

I believe the truth of this assassination will evolve exactly as the Lincoln assassination did. There’s very little dispute anymore that a conspiracy was traced back to the confederate intelligence at the time.

For a brief look at the latest on Lincoln, the History channel has a 1 hour segment that shows the chain of information and events.

I have seen a US 11/22/63 newspaper UPI article that was released right after the assassination before Oswald is mentioned in the media. The SS agents were interviewed and said the gunfire (automatic) was probably from the ‘Knoll’. This is what they said in print before anything was mentioned about Oswald, and they didn’t even mention gunfire from the depository!

***JFK was murdered as the result of a conspiracy and the folks responsible for the Warren Commission report ought to be held in disgrace for ever. That includes Justice Warren, President Ford, Senator Spector, et al.***


11 posted on 04/19/2008 2:35:51 PM PDT by msnpatriot
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To: devere
We live in an age in which it has become extremely difficult to distinguish fact from fiction, reality from fantasy.

Yep, more people today prefer to believe lies than truth, even when they witness an event with their own eyes, as most people on the planet with access to a TV did on 9/11/01.

12 posted on 04/19/2008 2:45:35 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Politics is the ultimate excercise in facing reality and making hard choices.)
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To: Radix
There are so many people that so want to desperately want to believe conspiracy with JFK, when the truth is Oswald did it and did it alone! It has been proven forensically, through computer models and through recreations, and yes the magic bullet shot was proven to be possible! Its funny how we have the Zapruter film that records the murder and we know that there is no way Oswald could have done it, but o film of JD Tippet being murdered and we know Oswald did it!

These "Truthers" are nothing more than hacks who see a speck and say its a bullet. Suddenly they are building engineers that say WTC7 was a demolition, but can't tell you why it was blown up? Wannabe witnesses to anything, pseudo experts in nothing, but authoritative in all matters!

13 posted on 04/19/2008 2:51:33 PM PDT by Bommer (Hmmm who to vote for? A Far leftist? A Radical Leftist? Or a Republican that enjoys being a Leftist?)
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To: Bommer
Back in the 1960s when we did not have digital or Internet I remember listening (later watching) to the tapes of the actual live Oswald murder report.

The horn beeped twice and the second honk was immediately prior to the gunshot by Ruby. The headlights on the station wagon also flashed briefly just at the second honk before the gunshot by Ruby.

Not much evidence of a conspiracy I'll agree, but on the other hand, things were a bit less technologically sophisticated in those days.

The folks who put all of this assassination business together certainly did not anticipate the acoustic evidence, the Zapruder film, and later the Internet, among other things.

I was shown enough compelling information 40 years ago to convince me of the corruption of our system.

Perhaps that is part of the reason that I have since made it my business to know what I am talking about in every case before I express opinions on any matter.

14 posted on 04/19/2008 5:57:14 PM PDT by Radix (Sometimes a post is just a post.)
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To: Radix
Perhaps that is part of the reason that I have since made it my business to know what I am talking about in every case before I express opinions on any matter

There are guys in Dealy plaza to this day that make it their "business" to sell newpaper flyers at $7.50 thats full of the conspiracy crap. Hate to disappoint, but there was no conspiracy. Most of the theories are woven fantacies to try to make it look like a conspiracy. Take away all the crap of "opinons" and look at it from a forensic standpoint with film and photos and pure logic and the vast majority of the opinions by so called experts can be shreaded to pieces. The only conspiracy of teh JFK assassination is the one that still wants people to believe its a conpiracy.

15 posted on 04/19/2008 6:26:21 PM PDT by Bommer (Hmmm who to vote for? A Far leftist? A Radical Leftist? Or a Republican that enjoys being a Leftist?)
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To: Radix

Strongly agree.

Conspiracies can easiliy survive in the internet age. Maybe more people will be aware of the truth . . . but SHEEPLE prefer to be sheeple . . . than to face complex, troublesom and frightening things that essentially spell the end of life as we have known it.


16 posted on 04/19/2008 7:13:31 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Bommer
I have never been to Dealy Plaza. In fact I have never even been to Texas.

I do know how to read though. I also can see, hear, and think for myself.

I've read, heard, and thought enough in my life to feel confident believing/knowing that it took more than one person to effect what was in essence a political coup in the USA in 1963.

17 posted on 04/19/2008 7:23:48 PM PDT by Radix (Sometimes a post is just a post.)
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To: Radix
Well I do live near Dallas (DFW metroplex) Been to Dealy Plaza many a time, 6th floor mueseum once, and even saw the JFK limo at the Henry Ford Mueseum in Dearborn MI. I know you read alot, but you read alot of crap by idiots that did not look at the assassination from a forensic point of view, only a conpiracy point of view. Their views wouldn't stand up in court (see Jim Garrison, major league corrupt idiot and Oliver Stone hero) He based his case on one eyewitness (Jack Martin) who said he saw Oswald with David Farrie & Clay Shaw planning the assassination. Quite a fear considering the limo route wasn't changed until a day before Kennedy arrived (oh wait, CIA was in on it) Turned out Jack Martin was a liar and recanted his remarks a week before teh trial, but Garrison went on with it anyways!

Look Radix, no matter what forensic proof I show you (and some of it is quite damning) you want to believe our Government wacked him. I'd like to believe it too, but it just didn't happen. Oswald was a nut who desparately wanted attention and he got it...in the worst way. Why he did it? No one knows, but he did.

18 posted on 04/19/2008 7:33:23 PM PDT by Bommer (Hmmm who to vote for? A Far leftist? A Radical Leftist? Or a Republican that enjoys being a Leftist?)
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To: Bommer

I actually have read a few books on the matter.

Funny, Jim Garrison was a corrupt politician. Aren’t they all?

The business with the forensics after the Parkland hospital was very disturbing. That book Best Evidence was thought provoking.

I love the subject, but too bad tomorrow is a work day for me.

Back later.


19 posted on 04/19/2008 7:43:23 PM PDT by Radix (Sometimes a post is just a post.)
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To: msnpatriot
I have seen a US 11/22/63 newspaper UPI article that was released right after the assassination before Oswald is mentioned in the media. The SS agents were interviewed and said the gunfire (automatic) was probably from the ‘Knoll’. This is what they said in print before anything was mentioned about Oswald, and they didn’t even mention gunfire from the depository!

And your point is?

Conspiracy theorists love to point to initial reports with "details" not found later, as if they contain some kernels of truth that were later covered up. Anyone who's worked a breaking news story (or for that matter followed a breaking news thread on FR) knows what a load of codswallop that is.

I've reported on a few breaking news stories and watched the wires on a lot more, and I can tell you that without exception they are a Charlie Foxtrot. There's a hysterical mixture of fact, rumor, best guesses, and eyewitness reports from folks who are flipped out and wouldn't be an authoritative source under the best of circumstances.

Unless you believe that there is a conspiracy to cover up the truth that TWA flight 800 was brought down by fartman's flatulence -- a "fact" reported on CNN's air by an "eyewitness" who turned out to be one of those jagoff Howard Stern callers.

20 posted on 04/19/2008 8:04:14 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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