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My Mother Is A Feminist
RightBias.com ^ | November 12, 2007 | Nancy Morgan

Posted on 11/21/2007 1:35:28 PM PST by rwbusa50

My mother is a feminist. A die-hard, take no prisoners, true-blue feminist. Armed with a hard-won PhD., she has made her life's work the counselling of the transgendered, the gay and the sexually confused. Honest work in which she is passionately invested. The only fly in the ointment is me, her conservative daughter.

I am as passionate a conservative as my mother is a feminist. It's hard to imagine two more diametrically opposing viewpoints. I view the current state of feminism as doing more harm than good. As undermining the traditional and family values that I consider the backbone of our country. On the other hand, my mother considers conservative values as outdated, invalid, and as having absolutely no intrinsic value.

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Nancy Morgan later in the article points out that politics for some have become personal to the point where communication is lessened, and that it would be helpful to concentrate on our commonalties instead of focusing only on the things that divide us.
1 posted on 11/21/2007 1:35:29 PM PST by rwbusa50
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To: rwbusa50

How is urging men to reject the divesity of female life-companionship for a sex-and-more relationship with other men “feminist”?

And does her counselling of sexually confused men and women ever consist of urging them to approach with caution and not to make any mistakes they might regret? Experimentation is not always positive. And does “curiosity” automatically mean that someone IS homosexual or bi (even the hardcore homosexual crowd denies that anyone is bi, only a slut or someone afraid to fully come out of the closet would “be” bi they insist)?


2 posted on 11/21/2007 1:41:48 PM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy 1980-2012)
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To: rwbusa50

Dear Nancy:

Avoid your mother at any cost.

Once the regime of She Who Must Not Be Named begins, your mother will willingly turn your name into the HillaryStaatpolezei, and you will be “reeducated”.

Either that, or you will be the non-consenting subject of a post-partum abortion.


3 posted on 11/21/2007 1:42:07 PM PST by Old Sarge (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub)
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To: rwbusa50

Good read for the day before Thanksgiving as many of us prepare to spend the day with relatives who may disagree with us politically. I generally keep quiet about my views but it’s hard when my sister in law starts in on her Bush bashing. I’m proud that the photo magnet of President Bush haS been on my refrigerator since 1999. I left it up there when all the Iraq war news was bad and I still admire and respect the man. No, I don’t always agree with his policies but I believe that they come from an honorable place. Anyway, we’ll see what she pops up with tomorrow.


4 posted on 11/21/2007 1:44:18 PM PST by Mercat (Waddle around and make new friends)
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To: rwbusa50

The radical left has fomented themselves into such a frenzy they might riot if they lose the election. I am not kidding, these people have become nuts.


5 posted on 11/21/2007 1:45:03 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Mercat

I just hope we can watch the rioting on TV when, um IF, they lose.


6 posted on 11/21/2007 1:46:30 PM PST by GeronL
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To: GeronL

I almost wish this next election would drive the left to seek a violent retribution - that way everyone else can see who they are and what they want to do.

And, as a side effect, the authorities get to bust some heads.


7 posted on 11/21/2007 1:48:36 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: rwbusa50
She has my sympathy. My dear departed mom was a true blue southern conservative. God bless her soul.
8 posted on 11/21/2007 1:52:28 PM PST by RetiredArmy (If Marxist's Dimocrat Party & the Fed Gov want my guns, COME AND TRY TO GET THEM!)
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To: Old Sarge

My mother was a left-wing, pro-abortion feminist, embittered at my father with good reason. Somehow they raised up a daughter who went Catholic and conservative with adulthood. (And I am a feminist, of the conservative, pro-life, traditional family values variety.)

My mother and I never let our differences come between us. She’s becoming more conservative too - much more traditional values now, limits on abortion - and turning into the lone hawk at her Unitarian church. She is supportive of my faith although she doesn’t share it.

Morgan is right; family is too precious to lose for politics’ sake. Keep the politics out of it, and yes, it does take effort on both sides.


9 posted on 11/21/2007 1:52:31 PM PST by heartwood
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To: GeronL

The Left terrorized Republican voters in the 2004 election cycle. I don’t see why 2008 wouldn’t be bigger for them. It was a non-story in 2004 as they fired upon GOP offices, painted swastikas on signs and homes, slashed tires on dozens of “get out the vote” vehicles, cut power to GOP offices on election day, made Craigslist offers to “kick your ass” if you voted for Bush, school children beat up because their parents voted for Bush...

The Left is full blown psycho.


10 posted on 11/21/2007 1:53:12 PM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy 1980-2012)
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To: Old Sarge

“Dear Nancy:

Avoid your mother at any cost.”

Sage advice, Sarge!


11 posted on 11/21/2007 1:53:29 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: rwbusa50
The three children have become five and her husband has turned out to be a wife-beater.

She ended up with a PhD. and a worldview that understandably included a resentment of men.

And I'd bet my hands that she still supported Bill Clinton.

My mother and I don't communicate anymore.

Wanna take a swing at who cut off the communications? Anybody.........anybody.......

12 posted on 11/21/2007 1:53:55 PM PST by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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To: rwbusa50

On this coming Thanksgiving holiday, get down on your knees and thank the good Lord that your mother did not decide to abort you.

You dodged a bullet.


13 posted on 11/21/2007 1:55:00 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: rwbusa50

Not you, but the author.


14 posted on 11/21/2007 1:56:20 PM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: GeronL
I just hope we can watch the rioting on TV when, um IF, they lose.

Not likely. The CBS footage of the 1968 DNC riots is among the most expensive tv footage you can buy for inclusion in something (or at least it was when a filmmaker who looked into it talked to me of such things around 15 years ago).

The broadcast of the rioting will be kept to a minimum. As the footage of the 9-11 attacks disappeared from the public consciousness.

15 posted on 11/21/2007 1:56:25 PM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy 1980-2012)
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To: Mercat

Well I commend you about your Dubya loyalty.

We’ve all gnashed our teeth in frustration but I truly believe Dubya will go down in history as a good president.

When I get impatient with Dubya I think of Willie J, his smirking smile, boxers or briefs, Monica, this country’s sacred oval office....

...there’s no comparison.


16 posted on 11/21/2007 1:57:09 PM PST by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
I am not kidding, these people have become nuts.

But they're nuts that advocate gun control and, most of them abhor guns.

Bring em on............

17 posted on 11/21/2007 1:57:47 PM PST by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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To: rwbusa50
I now try understand the underpinnings of other views, the anti-American, Bush lied, 9-11 was an inside job type of view. Instead of writing these guys off as nut-cases, as my mother does me, I've found that it's more productive to try to understand how one came to adopt what I consider such a radical mindset.

Naaa, just write them off as the nutburgers they are.

18 posted on 11/21/2007 1:57:49 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: rwbusa50

Frankly, I don’t see anything wrong with a woman being feminist. There are certainly lots of issues that feminists need to address, from workplace discriminations to Islam’s shameless abuse and torture of women. But your mom doesn’t seem to be all that interested in real feminist causes. Instead, she is devoting her efforts to the “transgendered, the gay and the sexually confused.” Maybe she is not a feminist at all. Maybe she is just one of the many 60’s refugees who “find themselves” in anti-societal anger and in a hopeless faith in “activism,” as if it were an end in itself.


19 posted on 11/21/2007 1:59:02 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: rwbusa50

So’s my mother in law. She currently has a book on her coffee table describinbg how 9-11 was a plot by Bush to send women back into the stone ages. It cites polls that say that more women have opted to be “at home moms” since 9-11, and that’s the basis for this author’s theory. I forget who wrote the book, but I remember it was some woman from San Francisco.


20 posted on 11/21/2007 2:00:48 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Mercat
Anyway, we’ll see what she pops up with tomorrow.

I would set ground rules first thing. You lover her and will not even listen to or discuss any broad social issues that could bring disharmony.

I think Nancy Morgan is right. I am much less likely to accept anyone's opinion that differs from mine.

21 posted on 11/21/2007 2:03:43 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Jeff Chandler
On this coming Thanksgiving holiday, get down on your knees and thank the good Lord that your mother did not decide to abort you. You dodged a bullet.

Abortion wasn't available - if it had been, we probably would not be reading this article.

22 posted on 11/21/2007 2:06:12 PM PST by aberaussie
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To: Mercat

I had a number of interesting dinners with my late grandparents and my aunt. 3 liberals vs. me. It was like one of those politically unbalanced TV shows, like Deface the Nation. At one of these dinners, I actually called my aunt a socialist to her face. That didn’t help, and I apologized afterward.


23 posted on 11/21/2007 2:16:50 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: higgmeister

I do appreciate ground rules. If I say anything to her though she runs to her mother (92) and they tell my husband and it’s a huge cf. I’m better off in the family (38 years) if I just smile and go into the other room. I remember once at Easter dinner my mother started in on me about me being a Catholic and how it would ruin her grandchildren. Happy Easter!! Well, I choose not to live in that pain.


24 posted on 11/21/2007 2:17:30 PM PST by Mercat (Waddle around and make new friends)
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To: weegee
How is urging men to reject the divesity of female life-companionship for a sex-and-more relationship with other men “feminist”?

Liberals color with many crayons. 'Feminism' is just one color. . .our of the Liberal crayon box.

25 posted on 11/21/2007 2:18:17 PM PST by cricket
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To: rwbusa50
So this makes the writer a turkey-baster baby? So apropos for Thanksgiving!
26 posted on 11/21/2007 2:18:25 PM PST by toddlintown (Five bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: rwbusa50

My family is either all conservative or a few stupid


27 posted on 11/21/2007 2:18:26 PM PST by wardaddy (This country is being destroyed by folks who could have never created it.)
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To: higgmeister

“mother in law” NOT “mother.”


28 posted on 11/21/2007 2:18:36 PM PST by Mercat (Waddle around and make new friends)
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To: weegee; cricket
ahh. ..that would be 'out of the Lib crayon box' - so to speak. . .
29 posted on 11/21/2007 2:19:25 PM PST by cricket
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To: rwbusa50

NMy mother is a feminist too. She pationately believed in staying home, and taking care of her children. My wife is a feminist as well. These new age “feminists” are insane, nothing more.


30 posted on 11/21/2007 2:21:24 PM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: heartwood
(And I am a feminist, of the conservative, pro-life, traditional family values variety.)

Just a Susan B. Anthony kinda gal. :-)

31 posted on 11/21/2007 2:21:48 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: rwbusa50
I used to be a Feminist. That’s until I realized that the Feminists were only using women to further their leftist agenda. Otherwise they would have held Clinton accountable for his seductions of young women/the groping of his women peers and the rape of a woman who would lose her livelihood if she had tried to confront the sitting Attorney General of Arkansas. I pointed out, to all my female lefty friends. that all Clinton’s accusers were Democrats. I also pointed out that Feminists said, in regards to Anita Hill, that women always tell the truth about sexual harassment. That’s when I got it. Only Conservative men are held accountable for perceived slights to women. When asked about Clinton’s affair with Lewinsky, Anita Hill said “well, you really have to consider his voting record”. Your mother has been sold a bill of goods and can not, at this point of her life, turn back the clock. She would be devastated if she realized how she (along with thousands of other women) has been completely used. My condolences.
32 posted on 11/21/2007 2:22:31 PM PST by originalbuckeye (I want a hero....I'm holding out for a hero (politically))
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To: cowboyway
Bring em on............

A Class III weapon should take care of that.

33 posted on 11/21/2007 2:25:32 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: higgmeister
I think that the author understands the real issue but is dodging around it. Her mother’s beliefs and opinions are informed by emotion, not thought. You cannot, for long, maintain a composed dialog with emotion-based people, they quickly get their feelings hurt and lash out. Think of trying to have a rational, or even humorous, dialog with a fanatic Muslim about their ‘prophet’(cartoons anyone?)
Liberals, whether under color of feminism, anti-war protests, or racial identity groups quickly revert to form.
34 posted on 11/21/2007 2:33:29 PM PST by Old North State
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
A Class III weapon should take care of that.

I'll just stuff a few extra mags in my BOB, grab a couple of my M4's and my H&K USP Tactical and wait for the action to start.

35 posted on 11/21/2007 2:39:16 PM PST by cowboyway (My heroes have always been Cowboys)
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To: weegee
The Left is full blown psycho.

They're going to start open civil war in 2008. We're going to finish it. With extreme prejudice.

36 posted on 11/21/2007 2:43:57 PM PST by Noumenon ("A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Reagan)
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To: rwbusa50
My mother and I don't communicate anymore.

What a terrible shame. Politics shouldn't split families like that.

37 posted on 11/21/2007 2:45:33 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: weegee
The broadcast of the rioting will be kept to a minimum

But only in the MSM. There are now too many other outlets for the distribution of information.

38 posted on 11/21/2007 2:45:58 PM PST by Noumenon ("A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Reagan)
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To: GeronL
The radical left has fomented themselves into such a frenzy they might riot if they lose the election. I am not kidding, these people have become nuts.

I know that's true. We should make them set aside some money now just in case. Someone is going to have to clean up the mess when they throw themselves from buildings.
39 posted on 11/21/2007 2:55:17 PM PST by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
A Class III weapon should take care of that.

Or a #9 loon mallet ;)

-Traveler

40 posted on 11/21/2007 3:03:50 PM PST by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Old Sarge
My mother is a feminist as well. The only thing it ever meant to her was men-hating. All men, including her sons.
41 posted on 11/21/2007 3:10:07 PM PST by Bowtie52
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To: Noumenon

“CW2” is not just the rank of a junior Army warrant officer.

It’s common code for “Second Civil War”.

But what shall I take to the inaugural uproar and ruckus?

My bolt-action scoped 30-06 (classified by Rebecca Peters of the U.N. as a “medium range sniper weapon”)?

Or my ancient M1911A1 for close-in work?

Anyway, let the games begin. I abhor boredom.

;^)


42 posted on 11/21/2007 3:48:48 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: MrB

Not to mention that we might get a chance to defend ourselves. That might be fun.


43 posted on 11/21/2007 3:53:05 PM PST by TDA2
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To: originalbuckeye
DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING!

NO more calls, please.

We have a winner!

44 posted on 11/21/2007 4:03:19 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: elcid1970

Remington 870 works for me.


45 posted on 11/21/2007 4:16:11 PM PST by slapshot (""USAF- when you absolutely, positively need it delivered on target, on time, right away)
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To: slapshot

Geez, I forgot my Remington 870.

Normally with walnut trap stock, extended fore-end & Cutts barrel. But easily converted to Pachmayr pistol grip & short legal barrel.

I then call it my “870 Python”. Good for serious social work.

;^)


46 posted on 11/21/2007 6:07:00 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: Old North State
Her mother’s beliefs and opinions are informed by emotion, not thought.

So very true!

47 posted on 11/21/2007 6:14:04 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Mercat

Amen.

I wonder how Nancy came to her conservative views. I would like her to write more about how she evaluated the values her mother obviously tried to instil in her and came to her own (opposite) conclusions.


48 posted on 11/21/2007 6:38:36 PM PST by fightinJAG ("Tell the truth. The Pajama People are watching you.")
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To: elcid1970

I expect that there’ll be plenty of ‘opportunities’ for “medium range sniper weapons.” No one can maintain a 300 yard perimeter forever.

For close-in, I’ll use the good old Benelli M1 Super 90 with slugs and 00 buck.

And the Rebecca Peters bit is telling. They want ‘em all.

Molon labe.


49 posted on 11/21/2007 6:42:46 PM PST by Noumenon ("A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Reagan)
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To: Noumenon

MOLON LABE!

Hey, wasn’t there a online pic of a good-looking gal taking dead aim, with that caption?

Kind of Greek lookin herself as I recall.

;^)


50 posted on 11/21/2007 6:50:58 PM PST by elcid1970
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