Posted on 10/07/2007 4:50:54 AM PDT by Man50D
President George Bush has repeated his belief all religions, "whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God" – an assertion that caused outrage among evangelical leaders when he said it in November 2003.
Bush made the statement Friday in an interview with Al Arabiya reporter Elie Nakouzi.
Al Arabiya is Al Jazeerah's top competitor in the Mideast.
As the president and Nakouzi walked from the Oval Office to the Map Room in the White House residence, Nazouki asked, "But I want to tell you – and I hope this doesn't bother you at all – that in the Islamic world they think that President Bush is an enemy of Islam – that he wants to destroy their religion, what they believe in. Is that in any way true, Mr. President?"
"No, it's not," said Bush. "I've heard that, and it just shows [sic] to show a couple of things: One, that the radicals have done a good job of propagandizing. In other words, they've spread the word that this really isn't peaceful people versus radical people or terrorists, this is really about the America not liking Islam.
"Well, first of all, I believe in an Almighty God, and I believe that all the world, whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God. That's what I believe. I believe that Islam is a great religion that preaches peace. And I believe people who murder the innocent to achieve political objectives aren't religious people, whether they be a Christian who does that – we had a person blow up our – blow up a federal building in Oklahoma City who professed to be a Christian, but that's not a Christian act to kill innocent people.
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Who is baal? Who is molech? Oh that’s right, they are a couple of the ‘other’ gods that Yahweh warned us NOT to follow. But, I suppose Yahweh could be wrong about there being other gods.
Bush is right. There is only one God.You are right. By definition.
Unless you're an animist, or an ancient Roman or Greek. (Or perhaps a Hindu. Do they believe in multiple gods or just multiple demigods?)
Please Understand Bush labors under a dual load— #1 he was
raised a Methodist(not necessarily a born again Christian kind of Bible believing theology) #2 he is a politician( who believes in the secular reilgion of State over religion) True Islam is a bloody religion of conquest and
forced submission it is a bloody cult.But to an American
President that is a moot point to be rejected in favor of
diplomatic Kissey Face— now pass the bowl around I gotta puke.
You are mistaken. Christians believe there is only one God.
If there is only one God, then non Christians praying to god are praying to the Christian God.
The theology and dogma are different, but there is but one God. On that point there is agreement.
What branch was he from? Can't say that I heard much about that. Did he quote from the Bible before hand? I have a feeling his religion wasn't his driving force!
Apparently you are just as out of touch as Bush. Most of these people, including myself, voted for this idiot. The lesser of two evils. We are completely disgusted with his continous lack of respect for U.S. soveriegnty, his conservative base and U.S. citizenship. And, now you can add his lack of respect for Christianity - the very people that elected him. Or, do you believe he was elected by atheists who defected from the left?
Money and fame are many people’s god.
Yeah sure Jorge. And all Texans drink Lone Star.
Oh God! Are you a Christian?
He could have simply said, "No".
Mr. President. May I suggest you read the Koran in its entirety and then come back and say that, “Islam is a religion of peace”.
did you hear Dr. Dobson say that? I’ve heard him say that he said he does Not know if Fred thompson is a Christian or not. I have never met OBL /UBL BUT I do believe he is not a Christian—Never talked to him but I believe he is
evil. this is not to say anything aobut what I think about
Fred Thompson. But he is an actor and a politician and the
facade those identifiable groups put up is a factor.
The first thing a just God must do is what he SAYS he will do. As far as peoples understanding of Him being ‘completely messed up’ that isn’t something that just happens to a person, it is something that people can control. White supremacists have an understanding of God that, I’m sure, God despises. In the matter of the many disparate peoples of the globe; this is why I think it a good idea to support the Christian missionaries.
You may just as well be arguing that Bush should issue a fatwa.
You claim your hero was Martin Luther. So I suppose you are a Christian. Did you know that Christ's Father was "the Jewish God" ? You might want to have a talk with Jesus about you badmouthing His Father...
As requested by the Bush administration, the high court will hear arguments in the fall on the case of Jose Medellin to escape execution…because he was denied a chance to get legal assistance from the Mexican Consulate.
The Mexican citizen was sent to Texas’ death row in the notorious 1993 rape-murder case…Texas Court of Criminal Appeals said the Republican president had overstepped his authority in ordering the state court reviews.
(Hey Bush, why don’t you fight that hard for Ramos, Compean, & Hernandez? I have never seen such blatant unfairness in my life.)
After six years I don't expect him to be anything other than what he is - a buffoon. He can't think his way out of paper bag.
If there really is only one God, I agree.
I think it’s really more like the guy that wrote the Koran, commands his minions...
Yes, well, baal is the supreme male divinity of the Phoenicians or Canaanites and molech is the god of the Ammonites and Phoenicians to whom some Israelites sacrificed their infants in the valley of Hinnom.
It seems that GW is taking some very weird action or position every couple days now, or making some inexplicable statement......and it's becoming rather scary.
The next presidential election can't come quickly enough for me.
Leni
“WE are free to openly scoff at the concept of “Islam is a Religion of Peace”. Our CIC is not.”
True, I agree with you that our CIC should not make negative comments about Islam. His job is to try to build bridges and be diplomatic. However, must he declare (lie) to the world that “Islam is a religion of peace”? I can’t help but think that he really believes what he says or he would at least stay silent about it.
Being from Texas, I hate to say this but Bush has proven himself to be a total fraud. This ridiculous statement, wide open Borders, persecution of LEO’s on the Border such as Ramos and Compean, the NAU, suing the State of Texas to halt the execution of a viscious killer to uphold a decision of the so-called “Internation Court of Justice, the PC conduct of the War and a host of other policies are evidense of what a fraud he really is.
“You couldn’t get a strong pro-American Christian elected.”
I agree. The Rs have sold their souls for money and the Ds for the votes of the wagon riders and ideology. In neither instance is there any room for Christianity.
“You can flame away, but it’s the truth.”
You won’t get any flaming from me.
Leni
I’m sorry, but if what you said were true, we would have a lot more problems than we do. There are over 1 Billion muslims.
I think such judgements come under the heading of “his call”. I don’t get worked up over this issue, the way others do. If he were using such inane statements as justification to cut-n-run from Iraq, that would be another matter. But he’s obviously not.
Don’t get me wrong. There’s plenty to criticize our President for. I just don’t think this is that big a deal.
I’d rather keep the issue of jailed Border Patrol Agents on the front burner and pressure Bush to pardon those two guys, and (fantasy of fantasies) fire that traitor Johnny “President’s Good Friend” Sutton.
I have a big problem fighting over "theology" killing people because they believe something different about God including disbelief.
The President is absolutely right to keep the "war on terror" from becoming a war about religion.
What’s important is not my concept of God, which can only be limited, but how I come to God. If I come through love for all, I will live. If I come through jihad, I will perish.
C’mon. Put yourself in his position with his responsibilities ... would you have answered that Muslims pray to a false God?
That is heresy.
My just God doesn’t ignore the people that pray to him. I see no reason why He would answer any prayers that are addressed to Satan.
Jorge needs to retire to Crawford ASAP. His frontotemporal lobar degeneration is getting worse.
> I think it’s really more like the guy that wrote the
> Koran, commands his minions...
According to any Moslem, however secularized or radicalized, “allah” wrote the Koran through his “prophet”, Mohammed.
If you haven’t already, you should read it.
It’s a bloody screed if ever there was one.
Basically, “allah” gives the unbelieving three options.
1. Be Converted
2. Be enslaved
3. Be killed
The moslem must do more good than evil, and the only guarantee that the moslem has to enter “paradise” is martyrdom, which is defined in the Koran as to die while killing infidels.
Again, the ONLY guarantee of an afterlife in paradise for a Moslem, is to die while killing infidels.
Other than that, there are NO guarantees that your good will outweigh your bad.
Now read the New Testament.
2. (Yahweh) God commends His love toward us, in that, while we were yet ninners, Christ died for us.
3. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ (Yahshua ha Messhiach), and you shall be saved.
4. For by GRACE are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; It is a GIFT of (Yahweh) God, NOT OF WORKS,
lest any man should boast.
And MOST of all;
1. Where the spirit of the Lord (Yahweh) is, there is Liberty.
We have freedom of religion in this country BECAUSE it was founded on the CHRISTIAN belief in FREE CHOICE. The Spirit of the Lord was indeed present at the founding of this nation, and that is why there was LIBERTY.
To the degree that Yahweh God is excluded and rejected, our liberties will be taken away.
Yahweh is NOT AT ALL the same God as “allah”.
This is so unlikely that I question the source. I’m not buying the story, al Arabya. I think you’re as dependable as Dan Rather. Are you related?
“Terrorism” is a tactic.
To say “War on Terror” is stupid, it’s like saying a “War on Bliztkrieg” or “War on Kamikaze”...ignoring the real threat.
What Bush missed right after 9-11 is that we were hit by JIHADISTS.
His “Axis of Evil” did not even contain Wahhabists.
George Bush has gotten us into a HUGE mess in Iraq, and still refuses to believe that Jihad and Shariah our the true threats.
Mr. President, if you wish to pray to Satan (aka the demon calling itself ‘allah’) you are free to do so.
As for me and my house, we will serve the One True God, manifested in human form as Jesus Christ, Who is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and NOBODY goes to the Father (not even you sir) except by HIM.
Remember that on Judgment Day.
The Hindus have many gods so are these the same God I pray to?NO!
This is such a PC/mush statement made by our president and I wonder if this is from an un-rehearsed speach that he just read without thinking.
While I agree that there is only one God, I am less convinced that the Muslim view of God has anything to do with the universal concept of doing good in the world as homage to an all good and loving God. Western civilization, based on Judeo-Christian values, has evolved a world view that individual freedom ,including the freedom of belief and tolerance, is a God given right. The Muslim view that it is a duty to convert the whole world to Islam runs very contrary to that concept.
The whole statement is an OXY-MORON.
Jesus in the Antithesis of Mohammed.
And be careful - you just separated the "Jewish" God from the "Christian" God, when in fact they are one and the same. Even more specifically, He chose Israel long before including all of us - we are grafted into THEIR tree. Read Romans 11. He was their God first and only by His grace we can join the family of Israel.
McVeigh professed to be an agnostic, not Christian. When he was about to be executed, he hedged his bets and allowed a priest to see him, but that’s about it. Only God knows where he is now.
This level of pandering is absolutely reprehensible.
this must include the communists of the USSR...
This PC stuff gives me a stomach ache. Same God? Give me a break, junior. I would not like to answer to the real God for a statement like that. Bush has nearly destroyed the Republican party. This idiotic statement should just about bury it. Just like his “guest worker” speeches before that last election, perhaps he has a “Islamic fundamentalists and Christian fundamentalists” worship the same God speech. These speeches are guaranteed to lose seats.
I completely agree!
Some of his actions and comments over the past few years have made me QUITE ashamed that I voted for him TWICE!
That said, there is no way in H I would have voted for a democrat....ever.
but I digress.
W has LOST IT imo.
Last time I looked the Christian God and the Jewish God are one in the same. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow and did not change character after Incarnation.
The Jewish God is one of incredible patience and forbearance with His people, and the Christians too often for get that our God is a God of judgement as well, THey are after all one in the same
What do you mean, “god of revenge”? What makes you think that?
And are not the Jewish God and Christian God the same? Who is Jesus’s father if not the Jewish God?
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