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Bush: All religions pray to 'same God'
WorldNetdaily.com ^ | October 7, 2007

Posted on 10/07/2007 4:50:54 AM PDT by Man50D

President George Bush has repeated his belief all religions, "whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God" – an assertion that caused outrage among evangelical leaders when he said it in November 2003.

Bush made the statement Friday in an interview with Al Arabiya reporter Elie Nakouzi.

Al Arabiya is Al Jazeerah's top competitor in the Mideast.

As the president and Nakouzi walked from the Oval Office to the Map Room in the White House residence, Nazouki asked, "But I want to tell you – and I hope this doesn't bother you at all – that in the Islamic world they think that President Bush is an enemy of Islam – that he wants to destroy their religion, what they believe in. Is that in any way true, Mr. President?"

"No, it's not," said Bush. "I've heard that, and it just shows [sic] to show a couple of things: One, that the radicals have done a good job of propagandizing. In other words, they've spread the word that this really isn't peaceful people versus radical people or terrorists, this is really about the America not liking Islam.

"Well, first of all, I believe in an Almighty God, and I believe that all the world, whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God. That's what I believe. I believe that Islam is a great religion that preaches peace. And I believe people who murder the innocent to achieve political objectives aren't religious people, whether they be a Christian who does that – we had a person blow up our – blow up a federal building in Oklahoma City who professed to be a Christian, but that's not a Christian act to kill innocent people.

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One, that the radicals have done a good job of propagandizing.

You couldn't be more worng Mr. President. It is not merely a minority of Muslims perpetrating the violence. Islam is built on the precept non Muslims are to be subjugated to Islam, convert to Islam or Destroyed.

One, that the radicals have done a good job of propagandizing.

You misunderstand the meaning of peace to Muslims Mr. President as the following article reveals.

Islamic Scholar Warns U.S. of 'Two-Faced' Muslims
1 posted on 10/07/2007 4:50:58 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D

This is SO very sad. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on some things, but this clearly shows a man of NO faith in the Christian sense.


2 posted on 10/07/2007 4:53:38 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Man50D

Is this freaking guy for real?
What little respect I had left for junior is now completely gone. What a disgrace.


3 posted on 10/07/2007 5:00:05 AM PDT by frankiep (Insert clever quote here)
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To: Man50D

How can a guy be so right on the war on terror and be so wrong about this?Allah is Satan Mr.President,try to understand that one simple truth.


4 posted on 10/07/2007 5:00:40 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: Man50D

How can a guy be so right on the war on terror and be so wrong about this?Allah is Satan Mr.President,try to understand that one simple truth.


5 posted on 10/07/2007 5:00:43 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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To: Man50D

I am very glad we got Bush instead of Kerry, but dang. Bush can be a real idiot at times.....this is one of them.


6 posted on 10/07/2007 5:01:04 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (He's the coolest thing around, gonna shut HRC down, gonna turn it on, wind it up, blow em out, FDT!)
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To: Man50D

Allah commands his minions to kill and die, to enslave and plunder, and to wreak vengeance and havoc for him.

Yahweh God came to Earth as Yahshua to die for us.

NOT the same God.


7 posted on 10/07/2007 5:01:13 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: Man50D

No they don’t!

The Islamic god is a god of blood and death.
The Jewish god is a god of revenge.
My God is a god of foregiveness and being non judgemental.


8 posted on 10/07/2007 5:04:48 AM PDT by djf (Send Fred some bread! Not a whole loaf, a slice or two will do!)
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To: Man50D

The President is a dangerous man...He is a danger to Christians...


9 posted on 10/07/2007 5:05:50 AM PDT by Iscool (REMEMBER all mushrooms are edible, some of them only once!)
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To: Man50D

SO a just God completely ignores the prayers of a billion people in the world because their understanding of just who and what he is, is completely messed up? I am not a Muslim but I am just asking is that what Scripture says and this is your God?


10 posted on 10/07/2007 5:06:29 AM PDT by badpacifist (They say your head can be a prison Then, these are just conjugal visits.)
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To: freeangel

Bush is becoming a key component to ushering in the one world order. Once everyone believes all religions worship the same god, get prepared for seven years of hell on earth.

Dobson made the comment that Fred isn’t a christian without ever meeting or talking to him. What will he say about Bush’s comment? I’ll say it, Bush is not a Christian. He is a disgrace to the christian community.

The only way to the Father is through the Son. That is GOD.


11 posted on 10/07/2007 5:06:32 AM PDT by mmanager (Fred is choosing the field for battle and he likes the view.)
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To: Man50D

What a moron.


12 posted on 10/07/2007 5:08:46 AM PDT by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Man50D

Methinks Bush was just uttering what the audience wanted to hear... the audience being the Arab public.


13 posted on 10/07/2007 5:10:00 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: djf
My God is a god of forgiveness and being non judgemental.

Well, I'm halfway with you there. When Christ returns, there definitely will be some judgement going on:

It's been nicknamed "Scary Jesus." It's a colossal mosaic, 3,600 square feet, titled "Christ in Majesty" that dominates the space above the altar of the great upper church at the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington, D.C. The Jesus in the National Shrine mosaic is a huge enthroned figure with muscular bare arms and fierce, frightening blue eyes. It's the Last Judgment, the "Day of Wrath," in mosaic form.

Remainder of article: Jesus: Scary Judge or Gentle Lamb?


14 posted on 10/07/2007 5:11:35 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The Democrat Party: radical Islam's last hope)
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To: frankiep

You surely can’t be serious. The office is worthy of respect, even if you dislike the man. Even the Apostle Paul retracted his statements about a man who struck him when he found out it was the Sanhedrin.

Everyone’s so focused on Bush’s flaws that they fail to see that some genuinely flawed people are coming to the White House in 2009.

I ignore the statement; it’s true in the very broadest sense, in that there is only one God, and that people think they’re praying to Him. As an evangelical Lutheran, I know there is only one way to salvation. However, we elected Bush as President, not Pastor-in-Chief.


15 posted on 10/07/2007 5:11:39 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven.)
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To: Man50D
This notion is held by many, if not most people: that God can be apprehended by man in various ways, even though this is not what He says of Himself as written by the Holy Spirit in the biblical texts.

It is incumbent upon the President on the united States to serve and protect people of all faiths, and to enjoin the unity guaranteed by our Constitution. We pray for him and all our leaders, and give him the benefit of the doubt just as we would our neighbors. But we need not accept his notion that all major religions "pray to the same God."

It is one thing to claim exclusivity when it comes to addressing God. It is another to do so by threats and violence. Remember what befell John the Baptist who merely spoke the truth. The same thing may happen to those who speak truly of God today.

Fortunately this world is passing, and we look for the life of the world to come through Christ Jesus, Who is risen from the dead and lives and rules to all eternity on behalf of all who belive in His Name.

16 posted on 10/07/2007 5:11:44 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Man50D

The piece uses a disgraced Christian leader to make an argument.

The media is getting so transparently propagandized, one can’t believe anything journalists say or write.


17 posted on 10/07/2007 5:12:48 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: badpacifist
The One True God is omniscient ( he knows everything) which means he knows (hears) the prayers of everyone.

The only prayer he *hears* ( responds to) is from the christian that asks rightly or the unbeliver that asks for salvation, in repentence.

18 posted on 10/07/2007 5:15:47 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer (When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty.)
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To: freeangel
>>this clearly shows a man of NO faith in the Christian sense.”

It is no surprise that he believes this way. Bush is proving to be a deist just as many of our founding fathers.

This deist theology is prominent in organizations such as the Freemasons. Praying to (Gaotu) Great Architect of the Universe.

Bush, as well as Clinton belonged to skull and bones in college....a secret society very similar to Freemasonry.

19 posted on 10/07/2007 5:16:47 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: CarrotAndStick

Way to many of his remarks seem aimed to please all that are watching. It would be nice to have a President again that could and would “shoot from the hip” once in a while (”The bombing begins in 5 minutes”). This “I’ve got to make sure I’m inclusive at all times” makes him sound moronic.


20 posted on 10/07/2007 5:16:49 AM PDT by n230099 ("Obama wouldn't know the difference between an RPG and a bong." John McCain)
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To: GAB-1955
Monday: "Every ounce of respect I had for the man is gone."
Tuesday: "Every ounce of respect I had for the man is gone."
Wednesday: "Every ounce of respect I had for the man is gone."
Repeat.
21 posted on 10/07/2007 5:18:29 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Man50D

Bush needs to step down and turn the presidency over to Cheney. He favors Mexicans over Americans (besides his amnesty proposals for the millions of illegals, he is siding with Mexico on the Medillin case in Texas, where an illegal from Mexico - Medillin - and his gang-banging buds gang-raped and murdered two young teenage girls, a crime for which he was convicted and sentenced to execution. Mexico, of course, opposes the execution, and complained, and Bush is agreeing with Mexico and wants the perv’s execution stopped and maybe even have him granted a new trial!). That, and his stubborn insistence that islam means “peace” (it does not, it means “submission”) and that the god of islam is the same God as Christianity and Judaism just shows that he has lost all contact with reality and thus has forfeited his privilege to serve as our president. I like the guy, personally, and I’m sure he’d be fun to chat with and bike with, but he has blown it as president.


22 posted on 10/07/2007 5:18:39 AM PDT by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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To: frankiep

>>What little respect I had left for junior is now completely gone.”

Welcome home.


23 posted on 10/07/2007 5:19:23 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Man50D
President George Bush has repeated his belief all religions, "whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God" – an assertion that caused outrage among evangelical leaders when he said it in November 2003.

If that's the case, then why is it that those praying to Allah want to exterminate the chosen people of Yahweh?

Is God schizophrenic?

24 posted on 10/07/2007 5:20:05 AM PDT by Netizen (If we can't locate/deport illegals, how will we get them to come forward to pay their $3,250 fines?)
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To: Man50D

Bush jumped the shark. Moderate Muslims lay low because they know Jihadists keep a little black book, and the more we give in to Islam, the less likely that moderate Muslims will ever speak up. (We may believe in the dubious merits of multiculturalism, but they don’t.) “Me? Moderate? Never. Gimme that suicide vest. I’ll help strap it on my daughter.”


25 posted on 10/07/2007 5:20:45 AM PDT by hershey
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To: COBOL2Java

Thanks.
Just seems to me that the messages he repeated over and over were “Forgive” and “Judge not...”


26 posted on 10/07/2007 5:22:51 AM PDT by djf (Send Fred some bread! Not a whole loaf, a slice or two will do!)
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To: Man50D

This is “Moderate” talk, and it is exactly what
you get from “Moderates.” This is where Bush goes
completely wrong in his stance. It is the stance of
the Methodist church to which he belongs.


27 posted on 10/07/2007 5:23:29 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: HerrBlucher
Bill Clinton
John Kerry
Bush sr.
Bush jr.
Hillary Clinton
Rudy Guiliani
John McCain.......on and on and on

WE KEEP FISHIN FROM THE SAME OL POND, WERE GONNA KEEP CATCHIN THE SAME OL BIG MOUTH BASS.

Vote Conservative.....not the lesser of two evils!

Now is the time to make a difference. Pick the MOST CONSERVATIVE candidate and get behind him.

The hell with electability, this is a made up entity to weed out candidates that rock the two party system.

DUNCAN HUNTER 08

28 posted on 10/07/2007 5:23:54 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Man50D

This is a repeat of a previous statement. “W” was without oxygen for longer than we were told when he choked on the pretzel while on vacation in Crawford.
He must have lost a massive amount of brain cells to have made such an uninformed statement and to have conducted himself the way he has since the incident.


29 posted on 10/07/2007 5:24:18 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: Man50D

I have never believed the man was saved, this proves it.

He is a phony that played the Conservative Christians for fools.


30 posted on 10/07/2007 5:24:42 AM PDT by ears_to_hear (Pray for America)
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To: badpacifist

> SO a just God completely ignores the prayers of a billion
> people in the world because their understanding of just
> who and what he is, is completely messed up?

Most of the people in the world do not pray to Yahweh God, the God of the Bible; the Creator, the Sacrifice, the Resurrection, and the Life.

They pray to some demon, like “allah”, that commands them to perform acts of unspeakable evil.

Others pray to images made of wood and stone by the hands of men; images that cannot hear, or see, or speak, or think.

Those prayers are not directed to the God of the Bible.


31 posted on 10/07/2007 5:25:02 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: Iscool

“The President is a dangerous man...He is a danger to Christians...”

Indeed he is! Just ask the few remaining Christians in the Middle East and North Africa.


32 posted on 10/07/2007 5:26:04 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: freeangel

Not all that surprising considering the direction of the GOP these days. Looks like it’s going to get worse since so many are willing to vote for name recognition over right and wrong.


33 posted on 10/07/2007 5:28:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: Farmer Dean
If you really pay attention to story of Islam’s founding, you should realize Mohamed was a disciple of the great deceiver himself. The great deceiver (Satan, etc.) is using Islam and the Islamic followers to do his bidding. Everyone just assumes that Allah is God, when in fact they to have been fooled. I admit that I too just assumed that Allah was God until I examined the founding of the religion. They are Devil worshipers and don’t even know it. When you realize they follow the religion laid out by the great deceiver, many, many of the other items in the religion start to make sense. Christians and Jews look at Islam and intuitively realize that it is not describing the God that they know and love. Now you know why.
34 posted on 10/07/2007 5:29:12 AM PDT by Revolutionary ("I love it when a plan comes together.")
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To: Netizen

I’m dismayed that those here in FR can’t distinguish between “religion” and what “man does in the name of religion.”

Bush is right. There is only one God.

If some want to believe that God is asking them to kill people in his name, they are going to have to answer to those of us who will fight back followed by anwering to God who will surely set them straight.


35 posted on 10/07/2007 5:30:49 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: Man50D

He is either Biblically ignorant or he just is not a Christian.

And I would say that comment proves both are true.


36 posted on 10/07/2007 5:31:00 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: Man50D
And I believe people who murder the innocent to achieve political objectives aren't religious people, whether they be a Christian who does that – we had a person blow up our – blow up a federal building in Oklahoma City who professed to be a Christian, but that's not a Christian act to kill innocent people.

It is however, an islamic act. Even if the Oklahoma city bomber was "Christian" that's one "Christian bombing" against thousands of Islamic bombings, shooting, shelling, and rocketing. There is no comparison except for propaganda purposes, Mr. President. Let's try a new track, Mr. President, speaking the truth. Let's try it for a month and see what happens.

37 posted on 10/07/2007 5:31:35 AM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Man50D
I believe that Islam is a great religion that preaches peace

Bush is a clueless dolt. The guy doesn't have any principles. If he read the Koran, he'd know that it preaches "peace" as a stalling tactic for only so long as it takes to build up your forces and acquire superior weapons.

Bush has been a great let-down. I'm glad I did not vote for him in 2004. If it had not been for the Swift Boat Vets, there would have been a Kerry victory.

I'm not sure Bush is "right" on the war on terror. I think maybe that Bush is giving his rabid "kill em all" supporters what they want in order to distract them from him giving his Mexican masters the control they want over the United States.

38 posted on 10/07/2007 5:32:19 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (George Bush admiration orthodoxy enforced!!!! Viva Presidente Bush!)
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To: HerrBlucher; Man50D; freeangel; frankiep; Westbrook; Iscool; badpacifist; mmanager; Slump Tester; ..
I am very glad we got Bush instead of Kerry, but dang. Bush can be a real idiot at times.....this is one of them.

This isn't the first time he's displayed his ignorance when it comes to understanding global norms, customs and soevereignty. His vision for a "new America" began years ago.

We are now one of the largest Spanish-speaking nations in the world. We're a major source of Latin music, journalism and culture.

Just go to Miami, or San Antonio, Los Angeles, Chicago or West New York, New Jersey ... and close your eyes and listen. You could just as easily be in Santo Domingo or Santiago, or San Miguel de Allende.

For years our nation has debated this change -- some have praised it and others have resented it. By nominating me, my party has made a choice to welcome the new America.

As I speak, we are celebrating the success of democracy in Mexico.

George Bush from a campaign speech in Miami, August 2000.

You can read the speech here.

Here is an excerpt of a good critique of that speech:

In equating our intimate historic bonds to our mother country and to Canada with our ties to Mexico, W. shows a staggering ignorance of the civilizational facts of life. The reason we are so close to Britain and Canada is that we share with them a common historical culture, language, literature, and legal system, as well as similar standards of behavior, expectations of public officials, and so on. My Bush Epiphany By Lawrence Auster

39 posted on 10/07/2007 5:33:09 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: raybbr
I think you meant to post that on the other Bush-bashing morning thread.
40 posted on 10/07/2007 5:34:53 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Kolokotronis
"Indeed he is! Just ask the few remaining Christians in the Middle East and North Africa."

He is a secular globalist, like his dear old dad.
I don't believe we will ever again see anything but a secular globalist in the White House.
You couldn't get a strong pro-American Christian elected.
Reagan was the last.
There will be no more.
You can flame away, but it's the truth.

41 posted on 10/07/2007 5:35:27 AM PDT by trickyricky
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To: badpacifist
SO a just God completely ignores the prayers of a billion people in the world because their understanding of just who and what he is, is completely messed up?

But doesn't God honor people's free will? Doesn't he let people experience the consequences of their mistakes? If God answered their prayers, they would have no incentive to abandon their "completely messed up" understanding of God. God ignores their prayers out of respect for their freedom and for their own good, as correction. Furthermore, God mostly ignores prayers anyway, so they're really no worse off than the rest of us. Thankfully God has equipped us all to make our way in this world without needing a lot of supernatural intervention. At the end of the day, we all get by.

42 posted on 10/07/2007 5:37:19 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: 1rudeboy
I think you meant to post that on the other Bush-bashing morning thread.

Well, I know you have a pic of Bush over your bed, but.... I DID intend it for this thread. It show a pattern that was hidden from us: Bush's staggering ignorance of the true base of the conservative party and its desires.

43 posted on 10/07/2007 5:38:01 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Man50D
‘.. all religions, “whether they be Muslim, Christian, or any other religion, prays to the same God” – “

Mr. President, how many people did Jesus Christ kill and rape during his time on earth? How many times did Jesus Christ CONTRADICT himself or the Old Testament? Jesus dies for all men and Mohammad kills all men who will not kneel to his version of the truth and YOU think these serve the same God?

44 posted on 10/07/2007 5:38:31 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: 1rudeboy
I think you meant to post that on the other Bush-bashing morning thread.

BTW, if this IS a bush bashing thread why do you think it is?

45 posted on 10/07/2007 5:39:18 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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To: Man50D

Islam is not a religion in the accepted sense of the word. It is a geopolitical ideology posing as a religion in order to be covered by consitutional protections here in the US while it seeks to undermine and defeat us.


46 posted on 10/07/2007 5:39:57 AM PDT by Salvey (ancest)
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To: Man50D

uumm, I'm not going to say anything that will get me zotted but...

I think President Bush is misinformed.

This is a kind of a "the Earth is flat" statement. And it does, in a Liberal sense, "equate". That is, all religions are equal, all people are equal, all countries and cultures are equal, everything everywhere is equal. All religions are equal. It is all about 'equality' and moral equivilancy.

GW has flipped. In some areas he is more of a classic 'Liberal' than Hillary or Pelosi.

47 posted on 10/07/2007 5:40:01 AM PDT by picard (Liberal: ability to supplant reality with multiple truths which are all in opposition to each other)
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To: GAB-1955
I ignore the statement; it’s true in the very broadest sense, in that there is only one God, and that people think they’re praying to Him. As an evangelical Lutheran, I know there is only one way to salvation. However, we elected Bush as President, not Pastor-in-Chief.
Very well said, and very very true.

And as Commander-in-Chief he is also Diplomat-in-Chief, since diplomacy is fundamentally an aspect of national defense, every bit as important as building tanks and stealth aircraft.

Diplomacy is part of deciding which battles to fight and when to fight them.

I know that there are some people here in FR who feel we should take on all 1.2 billion muzzies right now, but no responsible CIC would see it that way and Bush is right to say the things he says about the muzzies, even if some of them are patently untrue, such as Islam being a Religion of Peace.

WE are free to openly scoff at the concept of "Islam is a Religion of Peace". Our CIC is not.

48 posted on 10/07/2007 5:40:49 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: raybbr

Because people that never voted for him in the first place need affirmation? LOL


49 posted on 10/07/2007 5:41:15 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: freeangel

It also shows his lack of political savvy. He puts more emphasis in PR towards muslims countries than he gave to talking and selling the war to Americans. Same can be said for the economy.


50 posted on 10/07/2007 5:43:52 AM PDT by rbmillerjr
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