Posted on 11/11/2006 7:20:07 PM PST by cryptical
I thought so too. I don't get it.
Bingo. Too bad the gun-grabbers will never understand this concept.
Relax. Interferon was all the rage 30 years ago. Personally, I believe in research. My brother who died of leukenmia would be alive today if the research drugs were available 5 years sooner.
--did it depend on sacrificing a human embryo to find a cure.--
There are already about 60 strains of hESCs active when can generate countless more embryonic stem cells. There are probably over a hundred thousand frozen embryos that will eventually be destroyed or 'die' even if not used for medical research. I don't see that embryonic stem cell research requires any additional 'sacrifice' of a human embryo.
Ummm. Does everyone who has lung cancer smoked?
Bingo. I like your thought, reasoned and logical thinking. Not pessimism and hysteria.
--Ummm. Does everyone who has lung cancer smoked?--
Are you implying that smoking is safe?
Which diseases?
Alzheimers, Parkinson's, paralysis from spinal cord injuries, to name a few.
Researching penicillin and cipro, did it depend on sacrificing a human embryo to find a cure.
Which doesn't really have anything to do with the question you originally asked and I answered.
If this isn't to keep abortion rare and legal, what benefit is it for cloning.
I'm not sure I understand the question. Scientists and those who hope for cures from ESC do so for the obvious reasons: They want scientific progress in the area, and the cures it may bring. Also, for the researchers involved, you can add recognition, fame and money.
I do thank you for responding. I'll search it out to find the answers I need.
You're welcome. In your search, I encourage you to learn the scientific issues involved. When arguing the ethics, it will be more effective if you do so with understanding of the science.
Let me give you the bottom line so far: for ESC, the score is ZERO treatments and ZERO human clinical trials. For adult and cord blood, it is 60 treatments and 1,175 human clinical trials. I OPPOSE ESCs on both moral and scientific grounds. Why should we spend money and attention on ESCs when the other, non-ESCs are yielding great results. Makes no sense.
-A8
Nope. You seemed to have missed the point. Since i am not a doctor, nor a cancer research scientist; is all lung cancer caused by smoking?
Whether they mean it or not, the anti-ESC people come off as kind of creepy, because they look like they are rooting for cancer and for people to stay paralyzed
Their repertoire so far being:
1) Heavily rejected by the host.
2) Causing cancer.
3) No actual working treatments for humans.
Compared to adult stem cells which have them beat on the last point 70 to nothing.
The opening sentence is so misleading as to be a lie.
"No that wasn't my original question."
I responded to your example. That's an interesting idea. Ethics and science, in this current environment is that still possible?
I have to assume they had control mice that did not get the treatment that were compared against. This is normal practice, and the research is a total sham if they didn't.
"Embryonic stem cells, the controversial and versatile cells that seem able to do just about anything"
These types of stem cells have never cured anything. This is propaganda.
The stem-cell injection protected 20 out of 25 mice from developing tumours, whereas tumours grew in all unvaccinated mice.
--Their repertoire so far being:
1) Heavily rejected by the host.
2) Causing cancer.
3) No actual working treatments for humans.
But the science doesn't support embryonic research at this time. If it did as advertised, they wouldn't need the federal research dollars because the pharmaceutical companies would be all over it with their own bucks.
In the future--who knows? But such speculation is not science. This is all about hype for research grant money.
... and lots of cold, hard cash.
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