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These are my co-workers. Very nice folks, in most other regards. But stark, raving lunatics, nevertheless. I urge all freepers to homeschool if possible.
1 posted on 10/26/2006 11:25:29 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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Well since you didn't tow their party line, you are now shunned...

Tolerance, ain't it grand!


31 posted on 10/26/2006 11:39:23 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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I try not to talk to most of my friends about politics. It's better that way.

When I am Emperor of Humanity, political discussion will be outlawed anyway.


33 posted on 10/26/2006 11:39:31 AM PDT by Cyclopean Squid (Clockwatcher Extraordinaire)
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I am shocked that they advocated the reinstallation of Saddam. Usually the liberals won't admit to it.


36 posted on 10/26/2006 11:41:22 AM PDT by AmishDude (Mwahahahahahahahaha -- official evil laugh of the North American Union)
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Let me quess, they other teachers also think W/Rove/CIA pulled off 911 and made the Islamos the scapegoats. You seem to be a very sweet lady but what youre saying doesnt surprise me.


37 posted on 10/26/2006 11:41:55 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (The United States failure to act against Iran will be seen as weakness throughout the Muslim world.)
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Liberals never know anything.

When they spout things like "Bush owns the Supreme Court!" ask them to name three SC justices. They can't.

When they spout things like "Put Saddam back in power!" ask them if they know when and how Saddam came to power initially. They don't know.

Any stupid cliche they bring up, just ask them a related question and challenge them to produce a correct factual answer instead of a hyperbolic cliche.

They never can. They'll stop discussing big issues in front of you, because they'll be intimidated.

They're idiots. The lot of them. And they absolutely hate it when you point it out conclusively;.

42 posted on 10/26/2006 11:45:32 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Welcome to my world.

Parents - keep an eye on your child's homework - especially in history/social studies.

43 posted on 10/26/2006 11:46:02 AM PDT by Scarchin (+)
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As a teacher you should understand this phenomenon. Leftists are very much like children who rebel against authority and test limits. But like children, they actually do listen and care what the grown-ups think. I have a variety of leftist to semi-leftist friends and acquaintances. They spout off from time to time and I tell them how I support my president and his policies. If they were true believers and dedicated to their cause that would be the end of it - they would cease the conversation and remain in their own little world. But 9 times out of 10 they keep coming back and wanting to engage again and again and again. I think they are like kids who secretly know their parents, or their teachers or other authority figures are right but are just testing limits or repeating what they heard on the school ground. So it's important to state the truth even if you think they are not listening because 9 times out of 10 they are listening.
45 posted on 10/26/2006 11:48:26 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." > - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." > - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 > >

Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998 > >

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten time since 1983." > - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18,1998 > >

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." > - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin (D-MI), Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry( D - MA), and others Oct. 9,1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." > - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 >

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." > - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 > >

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, > December 5, 2001 > >

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandated of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." > - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 > >

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." > - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 > >

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." > - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 > >

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." > - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 >

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." > - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 > >

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." > - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9,2002 > >

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 >

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do" > - Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002 > >

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weap ons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members.. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." > - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 > >

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." > - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 > >

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction > ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real" > - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 > >


46 posted on 10/26/2006 11:49:22 AM PDT by Toby06
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Yeah, and there's a lot of the Liberal Bully Boss out there, too. The guy who has to step into the hall and rant at someone trying to do his job, and feel like he's bringing wisdom to the world (while he happens to be bringing disaster to his company's bottom line). The more his company's stock goes down in a bull market, the louder he howls about Bush.


47 posted on 10/26/2006 11:49:35 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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Watch your back because you have challenged the totalitarian mindset and these people will actively seek to have you dismissed from your position.

Do not touch any student, even to save him from getting run over. Don't even be alone with him. Do not advise any student concerning a personal problem. In fact, don't even listen. Just refer him to school counseling or the principal.

Do not mention the word "God" in any context while on school grounds.

Do not trust any school employee or parent who approaches you "sympathetically" and seeks to gain your confidence.

Document absolutely everything.

Get used to having a disproportionate number of the school's problem kids routed to your classes.

You are now more alone than you would be on the planet Pluto.

49 posted on 10/26/2006 11:51:34 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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As far as they can tell, there was no sectarian violence under Saddam because "He knew how to handle them."

Yeah, those open graves and nerve gas work every time.

One of the lines making the rounds here in San Francisco is "the war has lasted longer than World War II!" As far as I can tell -- I don't know for sure because the people spouting this never qualify it -- this is only measuring the time from December 1941 when the United States declared war on Japan up until August 15, 1945, V-J Day. The numbers still don't work because the Iraq war began in April 2003, but that's beside the point; what I would say if that came up is, "It would be easy to end THIS war the way we ended WWII. It certainly would save a lot of soldiers' lives. Is that what you want?"

50 posted on 10/26/2006 11:55:40 AM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Dixie Chicks: "We're Not Ready To Make Sense!")
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"Naturally they all agree that Bush is evil, the anti-christ, a religious fanatic, well not really a true religious fanatic, but a phony pretending to be one, actually an evil schemer who started the war to allow Halliburton to steal the oil, but really a simpleton who thought he could bring democracy to a culture that is incompatible with democracy,..."

In that situation I usually start with "That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard" and then wing it from there. Then again, I love single handedly battling groups of raving liberals. It's not for everyone, especially if you care what they think about you.


51 posted on 10/26/2006 11:56:03 AM PDT by BadAndy (You want a magic bullet to fix your problem, but I only have hollowpoints.)
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Well, you know, we didn't invade NK because it doesn't have oil. On the other hand, we didn't invade Iran because it does have oil. It all makes perfect sense to liberal idiots.


52 posted on 10/26/2006 11:57:38 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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In other words, these people are limitlessly arrogant, uninformed, and LOUD. I sat quietly until someone asked me a direct question and I told them that I think we did the right thing and that they are wrong to think that Bush had no idea it would take a long time to bring stability to Iraq, as he had said from the beginning it would be a long, hard haul. Let me tell you, once they realized I wasn't part of the chorus they started talking at me a mile a minute.

I would have told them that they are absolutely correct, that I had bought stock in Halliburton when W was elected, and that I am now too rich to care.

53 posted on 10/26/2006 12:03:39 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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ALL conservatives should support vouchers or homeschool their children or send them to good private schools.


55 posted on 10/26/2006 12:10:27 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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A lot of people choose to deal with anxiety using these:

1-) Projection, and

2-) Displacement.

The first has been discussed many times ( "I'm not the racist [ despite quotas, affirmative action, etc. ] you guys are..." ) so let me address the second.

You are presented with two versions of reality- the real one, where the world is a savage, merciless place, and a lot of people wish us ill... or the fantasy version, where everything is George Bush's fault...

Now that first version is really, really scary... hard to deal with, so you take all those negative feelings it invokes, and displace them over to one bad guy- who, incidentally, is a lot easier to hate, since he really can't hurt you. Unlike the "real" reality version.

See how much more comfortable that is?

56 posted on 10/26/2006 12:13:12 PM PDT by backhoe
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Carry a recorder and then give me the tape.


I think I could make hay with such a recording.


58 posted on 10/26/2006 12:21:51 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. We will screw you inshallah)
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Sounds like some "ladies" that my wife ran into in a doctors waiting room.

They spouted off pretty much the same crap until ... Mrs. Jazzy could stand no more! She laid the SMACK down on them hot and heavy, like only mom of a Marine can! She asked them if they "knew how stupid they sounded?!?! You want more terrorist attacks here in the U.S.??? My son is a Marine and has been fighting the bad guys over there to keep YOU safe and to protect the rights of dimwits like you to spout off and SHOW how stupid and ill informed you are!!!"

God I love my wife!!!
65 posted on 10/26/2006 1:28:46 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (God Bless the United States of America and all that defend her hard earned freedom!)
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You poor thing.

My daughter teaches in Wyoming. (and I did for many years) This conversation would NEVER happen in her teachers' lounge. The liberal is the "odd man out" around here. The "odd man" in this part of the country keeps his own counsel. (The Jackson Hole area is a rare exception.)


70 posted on 10/26/2006 6:11:43 PM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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Once again I am thankful to live in the south and in a school district where most of the teacher's have a W the president decal on their windows or a support the troops decal on their bumpers. I'm thankful that the middle school has prayer and quiet time at the flag pole for any who want to participate. I am thankful that at the elementary school the classes discussed the constitution and what symbols are used to show support and allegiance to their country.


72 posted on 10/26/2006 6:30:34 PM PDT by EmilyGeiger
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