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Trojan Horse? [Murtha medal issue a trap]
Mudville Gazette ^ | Jan 14th, 2006 | Greyhawk

Posted on 01/14/2006 11:27:23 AM PST by Fenris6

"Former representative Don Bailey (D-Pa.) has apparently broken ranks and attacked the war record of fellow Democrat John Murtha"

"...The story was picked up by CNS, a conservative web site. In their report they also cited excerpts from The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette in 2002, and several quotes from political opponents in the 1990s that raised questions regarding Murtha's record."

"...But the quote used above comes from a Washington Post article that confirms many of the accusations in the CNS story. But before Murtha's political opponents begin jumping for joy, they had best take a close look at how the Post is spinning the story of blue on blue warfare:..."

"Beware of Greeks bearing gifts, they say. The Post dutifully notes the actual source of the accusations (Bailey) a few paragraphs into the piece, but leaves no doubt where this story is headed: House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said, "The Swift Boat-like attacks on an American hero, Congressman Jack Murtha, are despicable and have no place in politics."

"Let me be clear: attacks on Murtha's Vietnam record are pointless. Murtha's latest statements against the success of US troops in Iraq speak for themselves; his current behavior renders his past insignificant. Democrats, grown tired of waiting for an attack on Murtha's war record from the Right, have created their own. He's painted as a victim now - of "right wing chickenhawk" contempt for real war heroes. But those serious about standing up to the current John Murtha would be well advised to let his fellow Democrats and the mainstream media keep this war "unilateral".


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: cnsnews; fraud; kerry; msm; murtha; murthamedals; swiftboatvets
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To: Baynative

John Glenn was a Marine.

Which is why he is not remembered as an Air Force Colonel.


22 posted on 01/14/2006 3:10:14 PM PST by usmcobra (30 years since I first celebrated The Marine Corps Birthday as a Marine)
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To: Baynative
John Glenn was a Hell of a Marine, a lousy politician but a Hell Of a Marine.

Muthra's not fit to spit shine Glenn's flight boots.

24 posted on 01/14/2006 3:19:39 PM PST by usmcobra (30 years since I first celebrated The Marine Corps Birthday as a Marine)
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To: Baynative

Arkinside.


27 posted on 01/14/2006 3:57:39 PM PST by usmcobra
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To: Wristpin

Yeah.. like Zell Miller is a democrat.


28 posted on 01/14/2006 9:23:59 PM PST by bornagain progressive
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To: SampleMan
Remember dims got away with hitting Dukakis with Willie Horton and then blaming Republicans for being racists.

IIRC it was none other than our favorite loon AlGore who dredged up old Willie in the RAT primaries.

29 posted on 01/15/2006 1:34:03 AM PST by jslade (Liberalism ALWAYS accomplishes the exact opposite of it's stated intent!)
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To: bornagain progressive

Maybe the party left him like Yell. Are you really born again?...You seem to be "Swift boating" Mr Bailey's military service.


30 posted on 01/15/2006 4:31:55 AM PST by Wristpin ("The Yankees have decided to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Fenris6; Howlin; Peach
"Beware of Greeks bearing gifts, they say. The Post dutifully notes the actual source of the accusations (Bailey) a few paragraphs into the piece, but leaves no doubt where this story is headed: House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said, "The Swift Boat-like attacks on an American hero, Congressman Jack Murtha, are despicable and have no place in politics."

Are ya trying to say the libs tried to set us up???

Gee .. why am I not surprised

31 posted on 01/15/2006 9:05:53 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Mo1

I have posted on a few threads that I think we should stay far away from this story. It worked, attacking Kerry's record, because he was so public with his anti-war rhetoric, he is unlikable and overbearing and he was running for the presidency, so the stakes were higher.

We have nothing to gain by attacking Murtha, imo. And that a trap might have been set wouldn't surprise me in the least.

I'd love to know what the book Stolen Valor has to say about Murtha. Their research was excellent about people who got medals who didn't deserve them.


32 posted on 01/15/2006 9:10:58 AM PST by Peach
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To: Fenris6
If you don't kill the bear with the first shot, the bear can kill you. Don't shoot unless you've got a kill shot.

It's not neccessary, anyway. Murtha's arguments are not winning. Defeat the idea, ignore the person.

33 posted on 01/15/2006 9:37:43 AM PST by atomicpossum (If I don't reply, don't think you're winning. I often just don't bother to argue.)
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To: Peach
I have posted on a few threads that I think we should stay far away from this story

I thought the story smelled when I first read about it

34 posted on 01/15/2006 9:46:57 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists.. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: Mo1

Ditto. And even if there is truth behind it, it's political suicide for us to pursue this. Murtha is an older man and isn't running for higher office and we should just leave him alone.

He's making his legacy by giving the jihadists hope and soldiers like the guy who stood up to him last week at a public forum does more for our side than anything we could ever do to him, imo.


35 posted on 01/15/2006 10:12:27 AM PST by Peach
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To: Baynative

Try remembering Klintoon appointing John-the brown noser-Glenn to the geezer in space expierment. Gen'l Chuck Yeager gave Glenn the brown noser label years ago and laughed about his hero status for accomplishing the same task a monkey first completed.


36 posted on 01/15/2006 1:19:47 PM PST by BTCM
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To: Fenris6

All I know is that when I take a good look at Murtha, all my gut instincts tell me, "don't ever let this turkey cover your ass".
Having survived a long time, by listening to the little voices in my head, and gut, I see no reason to change course now.


37 posted on 01/15/2006 3:29:46 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (MAY I DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP)
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To: Mo1
I thought the story smelled when I first read about it

Well, its SOP for the lefties - spray paint your own car, and slash your own tires and claim that you were attacked by right-wing thugs.

I agree, don't do anything. Just let it sit and stink, we don't have to pick it up now.

38 posted on 01/15/2006 4:26:02 PM PST by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: Peach
I have posted on a few threads that I think we should stay far away from this story.

As have I. I've been saying we can't afford to go down that road.

39 posted on 01/15/2006 6:21:16 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: Ludicrous
Very suspicious indeed. Smart Republicans will steer clear of this nonsense. Murtha has no credibility, so nothing to lose. We all know Murtha's stunts have been staged and planned by his puppet-master Pelosi.

Murtha will take care of Murtha.

40 posted on 01/15/2006 6:22:19 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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