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These Quotes Reveal The Credulity Of Evolutionists
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Posted on 07/02/2005 7:47:33 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger

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1 posted on 07/02/2005 7:48:06 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger
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To: gobucks; mikeus_maximus; MeanWestTexan; JudyB1938; isaiah55version11_0; bondserv; plain talk; ...
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You have been pinged because of your interest in matters of Creation vs. Evolution, Creation trumping evolution, and evolutionary fraud. Freep-mail me if you want on/off this list.

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2 posted on 07/02/2005 7:50:32 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong. (1 Corinthians 16:13))
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Dr. George Wald, evolutionist, Professor Emeritus of Biology at the University at Harvard, Nobel Prize winner in Biology

They don't give Nobel Prizes in Biology, doofus.

3 posted on 07/02/2005 7:52:52 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (If Rachel Corrie had listened to a military recruiter, she might be alive today)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I always thought it ironic that evo's accuse creationist of argument from incredulity" when most of their arguments are just that.

Likewise, evo's accuse creationists of imagining a "God of the gaps", when their imaginings fit the term "evolution of the gaps" far better.


4 posted on 07/02/2005 7:58:50 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Oztrich Boy
Thank you for pointing this out and catching it for us, Ozzie. Dr. Wald won the 1967 prize in Medicine, not biology.
5 posted on 07/02/2005 8:01:38 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Be on your guard; stand firm in the faith; be men of courage; be strong. (1 Corinthians 16:13))
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To: Oztrich Boy

What happened to "Everybody be nice."


6 posted on 07/02/2005 8:02:54 PM PDT by wallcrawlr ( Moderates = You're the wise middle. Like a spare tire around the fat waist of society.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
"There are only two possibilities as to how life arose; one is spontaneous generation arising to evolution, the other is a supernatural creative act of God, there is no third possibility. Spontaneous generation that life arose from non-living matter was scientifically disproved 120 years ago by Louis Pasteur and others.

You know, this just sums it up perfectly. In order to believe that God had no part in creation, you have to believe in a completely unscientific, antiquated notion. Life can not arise from non-life. It takes life to make life. There's no way around it.

7 posted on 07/02/2005 8:05:07 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Wow- where'd you get all that?


8 posted on 07/02/2005 8:05:15 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Whats up my Freeper!!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Let me be the first to offer the standard proof supplied by evolutionists:

You're stupid if you don't believe in evolution.....

9 posted on 07/02/2005 8:05:39 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: DouglasKC

Ah, that's way too simple. Why, even the average peon can understand that. Surely it can't be that simple, because if it was, the elite pinhead intellectuals, the high priests and keepers of scientific knowledge, would have no pulpit from which to preach.

There must be a highly complex, labyrinthine explanation for the existence of the universe. One that doesn't include such crude, neanderthal concepts as 'God' and 'faith'.

And I'm sure someone will offer it to us here shortly.


10 posted on 07/02/2005 8:11:22 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Whats up my Freeper!!)
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To: Onelifetogive
If man evolved from Apes why do Apes still exist? (Think what you may but I know my relatives arrived here thousands of years ago on ice ships from outer space, so there!)
11 posted on 07/02/2005 8:12:03 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: ovrtaxt
There must be a highly complex, labyrinthine explanation for the existence of the universe. One that doesn't include such crude, neanderthal concepts as 'God' and 'faith'. And I'm sure someone will offer it to us here shortly.

I've never heard an explanation on this. They have to believe in a fairy tale that a bunch of non-living components somehow organized themselves and became alive. Kind of like maggots arising spontaneously from rotten meat.

12 posted on 07/02/2005 8:14:45 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: wallcrawlr
What happened to "Everybody be nice."

That's for Evolutionist Threads.

Creationists Threads; When in Rome, do as the Creationists do

13 posted on 07/02/2005 8:23:34 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (If Rachel Corrie had listened to a military recruiter, she might be alive today)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

well yeah but,
those aren't REAL scientists.

REAL scientists believe in evolution.
In fact, that should be the basis for all science degrees.

< / sarcasm >


14 posted on 07/02/2005 9:23:46 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (Get your brand new 'penumbra and emanation' scopes while they are hot, two for fifty cents!!!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Sorry, pal.

Anyone who has to resort to a Hitler reference loses the argument.


15 posted on 07/02/2005 9:57:53 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

"If man evolved from Apes why do Apes still exist?"

Common fallacy, and an easy misunderstanding to rectify.

Man did not evolve from Apes. Apes and Man both evolved from a common ancestor.

Now that that has been cleared up, any other questions?


16 posted on 07/02/2005 10:00:07 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Apparently, there is a sort of a gap between what real experts such as you quote have to say about evolution, and what the experts-in-their-own-minds whose blatherings you read on these internet forums have to say about it. Interesting, to say the least.


17 posted on 07/03/2005 2:48:20 AM PDT by tahotdog
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To: highball
Now that that has been cleared up, any other questions?

Why doesn't the common ancestor still exist?

18 posted on 07/03/2005 9:31:08 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

The very first quote in your list, the Wald quote, is an absolute and total fabrication, invented out of thin air. Is there any reason I should continue on to the rest of the list, or is it a complete waste of time also?


19 posted on 07/03/2005 9:52:24 AM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: tallhappy

Do you really not know?

French and Italian both evolved out of Latin. Does it surpise you to hear that no people speak Latin as their first language?

Come on, this is elementary stuff.


20 posted on 07/03/2005 3:05:47 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Hell, he couldn't be bothered to check out the veracity of these (mis)quotes, what makes you think he'd check out the Nobel prize categories?


21 posted on 07/03/2005 6:06:41 PM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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To: highball

I see you weren't able to clear this up.


22 posted on 07/03/2005 7:11:23 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: tallhappy
I cannot help someone who insists on remaining ignorant.

Perfectly understandable, though. Ignorance is a prerequisite for creationism.
23 posted on 07/04/2005 6:04:36 AM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: highball
I'd think the common ancestor doesn't exist because all the members died off after the ape and human ancestors arose.

I'm not sure why you have such a problem understanding that.

Or that you are unable to answer a question in a straightforward manner.

24 posted on 07/04/2005 9:10:40 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: tallhappy

Truth: Man killed off all the common ancestors. In other words, the common ancestor was too stupid to live....


25 posted on 07/04/2005 10:07:11 AM PDT by Nabber
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To: Junior

Note post 5.


26 posted on 07/04/2005 10:41:08 PM PDT by MacDorcha (In Theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.)
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To: highball; tallhappy

One thing:

Latin isn't spoken as a first language because an outside source (Celts) stepped in and altered it.

The language did not change of itself (heck, the later Roman period saw a revival of "true" latin, in an effort to keep it "correct" and "universal".)

An outside force changed it, and adapted it.

But the fact remains, we still use Latin to this day. (whether or not it is a "first language" the tangible evidence is still there)

So answer the question, especially given your recent answer: Why doesn't the ancestor still exist?


27 posted on 07/04/2005 10:47:28 PM PDT by MacDorcha (In Theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.)
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To: MacDorcha

It still calls into question the veracity of the quotes.


28 posted on 07/05/2005 3:29:41 AM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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To: highball
Perfectly understandable, though. Ignorance is a prerequisite for creationism.

Less so than arrogant derision is a requisite for filling the logical gaps and promoting macroevolution theory. You're probably not aware of the fact that you're simply following a traditional strategy that was deliberately concocted by "Darwin's Bulldog" (Huxley) to quell public scrutiny of macroevolution theory. That tactic trickled down through our education industry, and you're blindly going along. Does that make you "ignorant"?
29 posted on 07/05/2005 7:56:44 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: mikeus_maximus

Cute.

Doesn't change the fact that "creation science" is an oxymoron. We don't need to address Darwinism at all to recognize that.

I'm not saying that Darwinism is perfect, or that it holds all the answers. But it is the only scientific answer that addresses the evidence.


30 posted on 07/05/2005 8:01:15 AM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Oztrich Boy
They don't give Nobel Prizes in Biology, doofus.

LOL So out of this entire posting, this is all you could find to pick apart?

Very telling.

31 posted on 07/05/2005 8:38:29 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: general_re
The very first quote in your list, the Wald quote, is an absolute and total fabrication, invented out of thin air.

I presume you can prove this assertion?

32 posted on 07/05/2005 8:41:09 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody
Well-trodden ground - mash here.
33 posted on 07/05/2005 8:55:38 AM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Ah, quote-mining. A proud Creationist tradition.

Throw a large number of out-of-context or, in some cases, made up quotes up against the wall in the hopes that they will stick.


34 posted on 07/05/2005 9:03:38 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: MacDorcha
So answer the question, especially given your recent answer: Why doesn't the ancestor still exist?

Because it died out. Maybe there was an environmental change that the species could not adapt to. Maybe other species (such as some of the species descended from the original species) ended up wiping out the ancestor species.

Species go extinct all the time. It's not particularly surprising that one of our ancestor species died out, since the majority of our primate ancestors have died out.

35 posted on 07/05/2005 9:09:11 AM PDT by Modernman ("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
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To: MEGoody
LOL So out of this entire posting, this is all you could find to pick apart?

Finding a elementary demonstration of ignorance in the very first quote example of the posting

Very telling.

36 posted on 07/05/2005 9:19:20 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. = Voltaire)
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To: Modernman
Because it died out.

Highball apparently didn't know this.

37 posted on 07/05/2005 9:31:26 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Oztrich Boy
Finding a elementary demonstration of ignorance in the very first quote example of the posting

I noticed you didn't criticize the quote itself. :)

38 posted on 07/05/2005 9:32:41 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: general_re
I see. So what you are asking me to do is believe a posting on that site instead of a posting on this site.

Got it

39 posted on 07/05/2005 9:38:01 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

You're always free to settle any controversy you feel may exist by going to the library and looking it up yourself.


40 posted on 07/05/2005 9:39:34 AM PDT by general_re ("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
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To: MEGoody
I noticed you didn't criticize the quote itself. :)

Because quotes by themselves mean nothing. They only serve to highlight a way of looking at an issue as an introduction to discussion.

"Quote-mining" ia an appeal to authority, done by people who neither understand or care about the topic.

Attempting to discuss the actual topic of the quote with a quote-miner is like teaching a pig to whistle.

41 posted on 07/05/2005 9:54:10 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. = Voltaire)
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To: Oztrich Boy
"Quote-mining" ia an appeal to authority, done by people who neither understand or care about the topic.

Ah, rather like people who choose to make an issue out of a little detail in the quote credits.

42 posted on 07/05/2005 10:00:21 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: general_re
You're always free to settle any controversy you feel may exist by going to the library and looking it up yourself.

Absolutely.

43 posted on 07/05/2005 10:01:41 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody
Ah, rather like people who choose to make an issue out of a little detail in the quote credits.

You mean people who would impugn the entire credibility of Dan Rather's reporting because of a little sloppiness in source checking?

44 posted on 07/05/2005 10:18:32 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (No morality can be founded on authority., even if the authority were divine - Sir Alfred Jules Ayer)
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To: Modernman
Ah, quote-mining. A proud Creationist tradition.

Ah yes, the old "you're just quote mining" missive. I was waiting for that. Get that from TalkOrigins, by any chance? Feel free to take any of these quotes and provide any "context" you feel would change the meaning of the words these macroevolution proponents used.

At bottom, the "quote mining" charge is just a buzzword that means nothing. It's meant to create a negative emotive reaction to the message and quell objecdtive discussion. But words mean things; so do plain admissions. To suggest otherwise is take a page right out of the Bill Clinton Manual of Dissembling, Diversion and Distraction-- a tactic unworthy of "enlightened and objective" minds searching for truth.
45 posted on 07/05/2005 10:37:47 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus
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To: mikeus_maximus
At bottom, the "quote mining" charge is just a buzzword that means nothing.

Maybe so. Quotes are irrelevant anyway. The scientific research behind evolution is solid. The science behind creation is crap. That's the bottom line. Read a science book.

46 posted on 07/05/2005 12:55:10 PM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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To: tallhappy

I knew it, I thought my original response was more than adequate. My mistake.

The fact that the common ancestor is no longer around doesn't mean it didn't exist. It also doesn't matter *why* the common ancestor is no longer around, except as an intellectual exercise.

For my own part, I think that the common ancestor probably died out because it was not as well adapted to changes in its environment as both man and apes. Is that sufficient for you, or would you rather make another snarky comment?


47 posted on 07/05/2005 12:56:37 PM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Modernman

That wasn't to you. I have a firm grasp of the reasons supposed. I was asking highball to clarify his dim point.


48 posted on 07/05/2005 8:46:42 PM PDT by MacDorcha (In Theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.)
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To: Junior

Fair enough.


49 posted on 07/05/2005 8:47:34 PM PDT by MacDorcha (In Theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.)
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To: highball
Why bother? Trying to explain the integrity of the scientific method to people who still believe dinosaurs and people lived at the same time is like trying to explain advanced vector calculus to someone who hasn't learned to count to ten yet.


50 posted on 07/06/2005 7:26:32 AM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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