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Private Action for Philippine Statehood (Want to become 51st State)
The Expansionist Party ^ | Fall 2004

Posted on 03/07/2005 11:25:38 AM PST by The Loan Arranger

What We Propose. The Expansionist Party ("XP") advocates reannexation of the Philippines, a former U.S. colony, to the United States, but this time as up to three States of the Union: Luzon, Mindanao (the two largest islands, in the far north and south respectively) and the Visayas (the islands in between). We feel this is the only thing certain to secure both political and social democracy for the archipelago and set its people on the road to fairly distributed prosperity. We also believe the Philippines can help restore perspective and purpose to a U.S. that has lost sight of its original, revolutionary dedications: liberty and justice for all, not just for people within the present 50 states but for all people who need liberty and justice, everywhere in the world.

Philippine nationalism may seem a "nice" idea, but independence is a very hard road that leads to an uncertain destination. Recent events in the economy of East Asia have demonstrated that small countries have no economic security, no matter how rapid their short-term growth may be, because they are helpless before powerful forces of the world economy. What is the point of trying to be a new East Asian "Tiger" if even the older and more prosperous Tigers are utterly insecure economically?

The Philippines has been independent for over 53 years, if one counts only the period since the U.S. withdrew on July 4, 1946. Oddly, the Philippines has decided to ignore its years as a colony of the United States and count its independence from 1898. The Philippine Centennial Commission dates things this way:

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KEYWORDS: colony; filipina; filipino; immigration; muslims; philippines; southeastasia; spanishamericanwar; statehood; territory; usa; wwii
Hmmmm...what are your thoughts? Please, no racist posts, they are beneath us, leave those to the Democrats.
1 posted on 03/07/2005 11:25:45 AM PST by The Loan Arranger
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To: The Loan Arranger

The Muslim and Communist problems would have to be solved first.


2 posted on 03/07/2005 11:26:57 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: The Loan Arranger

Will they add to the tax base or be a drain on the treasury...?


3 posted on 03/07/2005 11:27:31 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: The Loan Arranger

Considering they seem pretty cozy to the Chi-coms and they kicked our military out, there is more chance of Antarctica becoming a US state than the Philipines.


4 posted on 03/07/2005 11:28:57 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: The Loan Arranger

It would add 6 Dem senators.


5 posted on 03/07/2005 11:29:17 AM PST by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: The Loan Arranger
English only countries.

If we have to go to 51 states, Why not lump some of these tiny left wing New England States to go together as one state?
6 posted on 03/07/2005 11:29:41 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (When you compromise with evil, evil wins. AYN RAND)
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To: The Loan Arranger
Hmmmm...what are your thoughts?

This is a good idea!! We don't have enough Americans sponging off the tax payer, let's bring in 86 million more!!!

7 posted on 03/07/2005 11:29:52 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: The Loan Arranger

Don't think they would be a 'Red' State.


8 posted on 03/07/2005 11:30:09 AM PST by Semper Paratus (:)
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To: The Loan Arranger

Hell no, the place is unstable and full of commies.


9 posted on 03/07/2005 11:30:24 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: The Loan Arranger
We feel this is the only thing certain to secure both political and social democracy for the archipelago and set its people on the road to fairly distributed prosperity.

What do you mean by that?

10 posted on 03/07/2005 11:30:27 AM PST by shekkian
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To: The Loan Arranger

As long as they take care of the terrorist groups that are there first.


11 posted on 03/07/2005 11:31:09 AM PST by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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To: 2banana
Will they add to the tax base or be a drain on the treasury...?

GDP - per capita:
purchasing power parity - $4,600

Drain, enormous, unbelievable drain.

12 posted on 03/07/2005 11:31:41 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: The Loan Arranger

Why would this even be proposed..


13 posted on 03/07/2005 11:32:00 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Uh, most people in the Phillipines already speak English.


14 posted on 03/07/2005 11:32:11 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: The Loan Arranger
We also believe the Philippines can help restore perspective and purpose to a U.S. that has lost sight of its original, revolutionary dedications: liberty and justice for all, not just for people within the present 50 states but for all people who need liberty and justice, everywhere in the world.

I went to Manila ten years ago, and I don't have much faith in their providing any useful "perspective and purpose to [the] U.S." Besides, 50 is a nice, even number.

And I'm against a world government, even if it's proposed to be the U.S. government.

15 posted on 03/07/2005 11:34:16 AM PST by FoxInSocks (The Marines have landed, and the situation is well in hand.)
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To: The Loan Arranger
My gut reaction is that it's not a good idea. It's too far away, too culturally different, and has too many interest that would conflict with the rest of the nation.

I suppose some people made that argument with Hawaii, but in Hawaii isn't nearly as far away, and hasn't had the same sort of deep-rooted cultural differences. Hawaii was isolated from the rest of the world, while the Philippines is smack dab in the middle of a different section of it.
16 posted on 03/07/2005 11:35:08 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: Bikers4Bush
The real problem is that it would be too hard to fit on the quarter: "The United States of America and Southeast Asia." What then, If Liberia wants in? "The United States of America and Southeast Asia and East Africa."

This thing could get very complicated, very quickly.

17 posted on 03/07/2005 11:36:08 AM PST by D Rider
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To: The Loan Arranger
It's certainly a mixed bag. One thing that concerns me is the fact that any terrorists in that country would suddenly become US citizens with all the rights and privileges.
18 posted on 03/07/2005 11:36:30 AM PST by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: cripplecreek

There are many terrorists already that are US citizens (Jose Padillo, the American Talliban, the DC Snipers, .05% of Michigan, etc). Imagine having 86 million more people paying into FICA!


19 posted on 03/07/2005 11:48:57 AM PST by The Loan Arranger (http://www.millenniummortgagemississippi.lenderhost.com)
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To: The Loan Arranger
Imagine having 86 million more people paying into FICA!

Right, when your Ponzi scheme is running low, just add more suckers!!

20 posted on 03/07/2005 11:56:05 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: The Loan Arranger

YES!!!!!!!!

PI's are the hardest working and moral people I ever met. (And some of the most beautiful women *wink*)


21 posted on 03/07/2005 12:02:47 PM PST by Mr. K (this space for rent)
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To: The Loan Arranger
If we're going to start collecting states again we should start close to home in places that are culturally similar. You would think of Puerto Rico but even that country is a mess in some ways. I think Bermuda wouldn't be too bad as a test case.


I recall a thread several months back about a poll of Australians. A surprising number of them said that they would consider becoming Americas 51st state. They were a minority but it was still a surprising number, something like 25%.
22 posted on 03/07/2005 12:10:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: Mr. K

I have worked with literally hundreds. They run the spectrum just like everyone else:, hard working, lazy, dumb, smart, you name it. There are traits in my profession they have a problems with: insisting on speaking their language when together, in front of non Tagalog speaking staff and patients; upon becoming supervisors, promoting their own over better qualified non Filipinos; and maintaining the professional boundaries between patients and staff.


23 posted on 03/07/2005 12:13:13 PM PST by tertiary01 (Believe your eyes and heart before some tests that can be falsified.)
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To: The Loan Arranger

I would argue no.

While seemingly a democratic country, the Philippines are more of an aristocracy. The very wealthy control things and do not allow true market or democratic forces to act.

The Philippines have one of the best educated populations in the world but can't find jobs to support the graduates. Modern Saudi Arabia was built by very well educated Philippino/as working under the directioon of American and other western managers. They were or rather are, cheap Americans. They think American, that is they know US based codes...ASTM, ASHRE, Milspecs,etc.

The Aristos in Manila would never surrender the control to allow the masses to rise. If it were so, the Philippines would be the star economy in Asia.


24 posted on 03/07/2005 12:33:00 PM PST by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: The Loan Arranger
I think we would want to gain states that would be located closer to home first, like say Puerto Rico (who already supplies soldiers to our military) or say Alberta and Saskatchewan or something....
25 posted on 03/07/2005 12:35:53 PM PST by MikefromOhio (The DUmmies: Showing us daily how screwed up people can really be!!!!)
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To: MikeinIraq

Interesting comment......

Strangely believe it, one of the most revered careers for a philippino was in the US Navy. I don't know what happened to this policy when we left but there were lots of young men who signed up every month and I am reasonably certain there were many more than from Puerto Rico.;n


26 posted on 03/07/2005 12:46:05 PM PST by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: bert

we had some Filipinos in Baghdad helping do things that freed up soldiers, like cooking and cleaning and stuff....they worked their A$$e$ off that is for sure....


27 posted on 03/07/2005 12:51:41 PM PST by MikefromOhio (The DUmmies: Showing us daily how screwed up people can really be!!!!)
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To: bert

Accessing of Phillipinos ended a few years after they shut down our bases. The long standing practice was pay back for the sacrifice and assistance of the Phillipinos during WWII.


28 posted on 03/07/2005 12:58:21 PM PST by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: The Loan Arranger
The Philippines has been independent for over 53 years, if one counts only the period since the U.S. withdrew on July 4, 1946. Oddly, the Philippines has decided to ignore its years as a colony of the United States and count its independence from 1898. The Philippine Centennial Commission dates things this way:
Just excersizing my memory, but we acquired the Phillipines at the end of Mr. Hearst's War in 1898. After we had taken it from Spain, we then had to take it from the Philipinos in the form of Aguinaldo. He had a nice treatment for prisoners of war...he staked them out alive on ant hills. I suppose since they were Army, it was o.k. to feed them to the army ants.
I think we called them a possesion rather than a colony like American Samoa and Midway Island.
Yeh, I think it would be more trouble than it is worth.

OTOH I recall that Michelle Malkin is half Philipino and she is a close runner up to Ann Coulter in my opinion.
29 posted on 03/07/2005 5:48:34 PM PST by AntiBurr ("You cannot play the song of freedom on an instrument of oppression! "--- S. Lec)
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