Posted on 11/14/2004 1:38:03 PM PST by tricky_k_1972
ATTN: This is a parody site!!
I should have looked closer, my bad.
I have heard arguments like this before, but should have done further research about this site. Sorry all.
Man what stupid bone headed rookie mistak.
How little faith these people have...
God is god of all things.
Matthew 24:30-31
Mark 13:26-27
John 10:14-16
And He will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
God's elect will be everywhere. The last of these verses (John 10:14-16) even seems to allow the possibility for elect on other planets that we don't even know about.
Bullcrap.
I used to think that way, now I believe His word is timeless. Sure, there are parts of the law that were tailored to the society they were given to like the prohibition on pork, which we know now to be safe if well cooked. But the law in its entirety makes SENSE and is filled with LOVE and GRACE and BEAUTY.
You probably won't be surprised to know that I also consider our Constitution to be divinely inspired and every word as relevant today as it was back then. Can we please have a constitutional amendment that affirms that the constitution means what it says and doesn't mean what it doesn't say, that it has no penumbras and/or emanations and that the Founders carefully crafted it to be timeless and not dependant on current circumstances, at least to the extent possible. (how did I get off on THAT?)
Luther was a good egg. He pointed out that he could talk directly with God, and so could everybody. That ought to work anywhere in the universe. Nobody is going to escape from His mind just by moving to the Asteroid Belt.
muhammedism is not a revealed religion it is a vile, filthy death cult that worships objects. It is the primary group of people for whom hell is made.
This is actually the basis of Bush's illegal immigrant amnesty plan - those hard-working Mexicans can do the jobs that Americans don't want to do - on Mars. All of nasa's tests indicate that illegal Mexicans will work as hard in space, and on non-earth planets, as they do on earth. Let us reap this wonderful bounty of work and cheap labor.
. . . may deserve a stuned beeber!
One reason I am an atheist is the ridiculous aspect of the logical quandaries to which a strict reading of the Bible leads people. The idea that people would not be "saved" who aren't living in the right place or who don't belong to the right synod of Lutherans just makes the proponents of these ideas seem incredibly narrow-minded.
"Can any rational person believe that the Bible is anything but a human document? We now know pretty well where the various books came from, and about when they were written. We know that they were written by human beings who had no knowledge of science, little knowledge of life, and were influenced by the barbarous morality of primitive times, and were grossly ignorant of most things that men know today. For instance, Genesis says that God made the earth, and he made the sun to light the day and the moon to light the night, and in one clause disposes of the stars by saying that "he made the stars also." This was plainly written by someone who had no conception of the stars. Man, by the aid of his telescope, has looked out into the heavens and found stars whose diameter is as great as the distance between the earth and the sun. We know that the universe is filled with stars and suns and planets and systems. Every new telescope looking further into the heavens only discovers more and more worlds and suns and systems in the endless reaches of space. The men who wrote Genesis believed, of course, that this tiny speck of mud that we call the earth was the center of the universe, the only world in space, and made for man, who was the only being worth considering. These men believed that the stars were only a little way above the earth, and were set in the firmament for man to look at, and for nothing else. Everyone today knows that this conception is not true. "
- Clarence Darrow Why I am an Agnostic
Anyone even slightly familiar with Dr. Dobson and FOTF will recognize this as an ugly hoax.
This smacks of the 10 commandments going over 200+ after people started interpreting?
We know there are many religious people who don't have a clue about outer space and actually believe we should stay on earth. Many non-religious people share the sentiment but for different reasons. Their world-view is safe for the time being. By the same token, the flip side, many religious people think we should go forth and inherit the entire universe if we have what it takes. Many non-religious likewise. A funny thing is that most of the countries on earth have signed the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty which implicitly claims that those countries already have sovereignty over all outer space and can deny the use of outer space resources to any individual or individual firm. As if we who can barely reach the next planet with robots have any authority at all over the future development of the Milky Way and points beyond. Not arrogant, but silly.
All it takes is a seed...
By the way, I'm sort of interested in what I would call forensic extraterrestrial anthropology. What would a person look like who was born on the moon? Or on Mars. What would the effects of low gravity be? Would they be very tall with long limbs and unable to easily tolerate Earth's gravity? Would they really resemble us much at all? If the little green men that people always see in UFOs turn out to be real could it be that they are just as human as us? I think the possibilities are fascinating. And I have a faint hope that we could meet extraterrestrial intelligence in my lifetime. That would be as big as discovering the world is not flat.
Ah nothing can bring out the dogmatic bomb throwing faster then a theological discussion (This is why I avoid these discussions like the plague).
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You'd think so, wouldn't you? I'm stunned to see that so many FReepers must have so low an opinion of Focus on the Family, and of Christians' ability to think and reason, as to uncritically accept this parody as being the real thing.
You know, there is a sub-genre of sci-fi that deals with that. Maybe it started with Jules Verne or H G Wells, but a lot of heavy-duty thinkers and writers have since produced enough sci-fi novels to populate a small municipal library with their speculations. There are people working professionally in the field, too, seriously credentialed academics who hold symposia and have journals. Exobiology, exoanthropology, exopolitical theory, who knows, there are probably 1000s working real jobs in the general field already. It's exciting, pregnant with possibility, but we still haven't found so much as an amoeba from off-planet. Soon, no doubt.
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