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Voices: Why Getting a Vasectomy Has Made Me Feel More of a Man
MSN ^ | Chris Mullan

Posted on 11/01/2023 11:31:54 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Gaffer

ROFLOL


61 posted on 11/01/2023 2:08:39 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: nickcarraway

Translation: The latest from the Left’s endless quest to make all men into eunuchs.


62 posted on 11/01/2023 2:12:44 PM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Petrosius

—-> As he has condemned the spilling of the seed.

He condemned a man for refusing to fulfill his duty to his brother’s widow under the law.

Simple as that.


63 posted on 11/01/2023 2:17:15 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: Petrosius

—> if we keep that pleasure within marriage.

It’s the best.

—> the biology established by God shows that its purpose is procreation.

You seem to have missed spiritual union between a husband and wife - and God’s encouragement to enjoy sex.


64 posted on 11/01/2023 2:20:10 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: cherry

You’re right.


65 posted on 11/01/2023 2:22:03 PM PDT by Trump_Triumphant ("Our hearts are restless, Oh Lord, until they rest in thee"- St. Augustine)
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To: nickcarraway

Tiny Tim was an early pioneer of the old "Snip! Snip! Owwww! Owwww!" procedure.   He insists that the procedure ended up giving his singing voice a lot more clarity, and ambient resonance.   See for yourself...

      "Tiptoe Through The Tulips" - Tiny Tim



(Just kidding!   To the best of my knowledge, none of the above statements in this post is true!)      :-)

66 posted on 11/01/2023 2:35:55 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: cherry
Agreed that God made it pleasurable in order to encourage it but the marital act is also an expression of the love between husband and wife, the unitive aspect. Both need to be present. Nor is this a new teaching from Vatican II. It goes back to Pope Pius XI:
Nor are those considered as acting against nature who in the married state use their right in the proper manner although on account of natural reasons either of time or of certain defects, new life cannot be brought forth. For in matrimony as well as in the use of the matrimonial rights there are also secondary ends, such as mutual aid, the cultivating of mutual love, and the quieting of concupiscence which husband and wife are not forbidden to consider so long as they are subordinated to the primary end and so long as the intrinsic nature of the act is preserved. (Casti connubii)
The problem arises when someone tries to use this secondary end to justify violating its primary end.
67 posted on 11/01/2023 2:38:41 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
He condemned a man for refusing to fulfill his duty to his brother’s widow under the law.

This is a recent interpretation. For 1900 year the universal interpretation, of both Protestants and Catholics, was that the sin of Onan was the deliberate spilling of his seed. The Anglicans were the first to break from this consensus in its approval of birth control at the Lambeth Conference of 1930. Frankly, this interpretation is self-serving.

68 posted on 11/01/2023 2:42:53 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
You seem to have missed spiritual union between a husband and wife - and God’s encouragement to enjoy sex.

Have you actually read my posts? I have indeed reaffirmed that. All I have stated is that that aspect of the marital act cannot be separated from its primary end of procreation.

69 posted on 11/01/2023 2:44:55 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

—> This is a recent interpretation.

It is what the text and the context says.

Simple as that.


70 posted on 11/01/2023 2:51:54 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: Petrosius

—> All I have stated is that that aspect of the marital act cannot be separated from its primary end of procreation.

Procreation may happen or not.

Nor does God require us to have 13 children.

The couple is to still have sex.


71 posted on 11/01/2023 2:53:29 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
It is what the text and the context says.

For 1900 years all Christian disagreed with you. The text is not as clear cut as you might believe. The change in interpretation arose with the invention of the pill.

72 posted on 11/01/2023 2:58:59 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Nowhere did I state that a couple had to limit their actions to when they were were able to have children nor that that they must desire more children. Only that they must not block that outcome if it be God’s will. The union of the couple is also legitimate motivation.


73 posted on 11/01/2023 3:02:09 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

—> For 1900

For 1900 years the text has said the same thing - as well as the context.


74 posted on 11/01/2023 3:17:25 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: Petrosius

—> Only that they must not block that outcome if it be God’s will.

You have freedom to make that choice.


75 posted on 11/01/2023 3:18:26 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: PAR35

**Last I saw, it raises the risk of prostate cancer.**

I wouldn’t doubt it. Messing with God’s creation is always a poor choice.

I’ve heard the ‘pill’ has caused health problems for women.


76 posted on 11/01/2023 3:33:37 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: nickcarraway

A friend of mine had a vasectomy probably 20 years ago and his nuts got infected. Swelled up to the size of a grapefruit and turned black, (he is white). He damn near died. No thanks.


77 posted on 11/01/2023 5:22:20 PM PDT by Clarancebeaks
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To: Zuriel
I’ve heard the ‘pill’ has caused health problems for women.

Breast and liver cancer, to the best of my recollection.

78 posted on 11/01/2023 5:45:28 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: New Perspective

...the dog knows.


79 posted on 11/01/2023 8:37:40 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus

80 posted on 11/01/2023 8:59:09 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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