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Mom-of-two Texas bodybuilder dies age 31: Tributes are paid to athlete and gym owner described by friends as 'beautiful inside and out'
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Posted on 04/22/2022 7:12:39 PM PDT by algore

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To: EEGator
Cutting and the drugs and protocols they use to cut are far more dangerous than steroids.

This was your complete statement to me in post #40. When I asked you questions about what you meant, instead of answering you went on the attack. This of course is the stereotypical response of a person who has a history of using “steroids” for both medical and non-medical purposes.

I appreciate the additional detail that you have now provided but your initial statement was clearly minimizing the dangers of steroid abuse.

Because of your personal experience you seem to have a very narrow focus on bodybuilding, but the vast majority of steroid abusers are not competitive body builders... Your concern about competitive “cutting” techniques; poses little if any danger to them. The dangers that these people face from taking large doses of steroids without guidance from medical professionals or even self-appointed experts such as yourself are very real and should not be minimized.

81 posted on 04/23/2022 8:05:06 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15

Once again you engage in “mind reading” and you’re incorrect.
I don’t even take creatine, let alone steroids.

You seriously need to work on your reading comprehension. I clearly stated that non competitive men were doing this.


82 posted on 04/23/2022 8:07:33 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator
I know tons of non competition guys that use cutting drugs for “beach season”. Water restriction, high dose Clenbuterol, saunas, and low calories to “just look hot to chicks”.

I am sure there are a some who do this, but for some reason we don't hear about this in the news. Why? Is it because the numbers of people doing this are so astronomically low that it affects almost no one? Is it because the dangers that you claim are so much worse than steroids actually are not? Or is it because the media is ignoring these types of deaths? You tell me.

83 posted on 04/23/2022 8:14:09 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: EEGator
I clearly stated that non competitive men were doing this.

And I was addressing your concern in the post above when you responded to me.

84 posted on 04/23/2022 8:17:37 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15

No one gives a shit about some 28 y/o fitness nobody that dies of a heart attack in the sauna. Most just go “probably steroids” and move on. Ignorance is far more prevalent than truth and knowledge. Almost 3 million Americans die every year. Many are not 90 y/o people. People care more about what some fat assed whore wears to an evening out than tens of thousands dying of laced pills from China.


85 posted on 04/23/2022 8:20:07 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: deport

They’re both up now.


86 posted on 04/23/2022 8:27:21 AM PDT by SIDENET (Whatever they're threatening, the vaxx is worse...or they wouldn't be threatening you.)
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To: EEGator
That is an interesting theory... I am not sure how valid it is. If a large number of non-athletes were dying from “cutting” techniques that you say, "are far more dangerous than steroids"... it seems like we would hear something about it somewhere. Since you are an expert and have raised concerns and "know tons of non competition guys that use cutting drugs for “beach season"" ... have you got any links like that?
87 posted on 04/23/2022 8:35:58 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: Bratch

The last thing I would want to hear from her is your not done yet.

Pain ensues?


88 posted on 04/23/2022 8:36:09 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: EEGator
To be fair to you, I agree that in the case of the woman who died in the story that this thread is based on... your concerns about diet and drugs to achieve her unnatural appearance are valid and could easily have contributed to her untimely demise. I am sorry to have gone off on a tangent based on your initial response to me in post 40.
89 posted on 04/23/2022 8:43:59 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15

It’s quite alright. There’s tons of posts and threads.
We all do it. Going from one thing to another without losing track is really difficult.


90 posted on 04/23/2022 8:46:27 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Thanks. Your concerns were also valid concerning the picture I posted with Arnold shaking the hand of the black bodybuilder who died later of a heart attack.

My ancestors spent months holed up in small shelters near the arctic circle. It was dark and extremely cold all winter; all they had to for entertainment were booze, sex, fighting and arguing (not necessarily in that order). So, I come by my byline honestly through genetics. Thank you for your understanding.


91 posted on 04/23/2022 9:00:28 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15

My pleasure. FR has become very binary thinking and caustic recently. It’s nice to come to a decent conclusion. Take care.


92 posted on 04/23/2022 9:05:33 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator; fireman15

Putting up with Bidet* and his treasonous crowd’s bullsh!t has put many of us in a semi-continual rage.

Sure has me.


93 posted on 04/23/2022 10:45:55 AM PDT by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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To: doorgunner69; fireman15

Watching the country you love and served go to shit is rather upsetting and understandable.


94 posted on 04/23/2022 10:49:36 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator
Around 20 years ago after our kids moved out, my wife and I used to fly our small airplane about a thousand miles to visit the amusement parks around Los Angeles frequently. I used to have four days in a row off up to four times a month. We had a little mini-vacation routine worked out. And we altered our route a bit to see different sights along the way.

We got caught in some really bad weather once on the way back home. We found ourselves between two large layers of clouds at about 10,000 feet while flying over mountains and were about to make a 180 to go back when through the rain I spotted lights on the ground from a city. This meant that there was a clear path down, and I followed it. But there was some lightning; Between the mountains and the thunderstorm activity we were buffeted so hard that we couldn't see straight during a good portion of our descent. My wife who was an experienced flier got rattled badly.

When we got down near the ground I started scud running (trying to avoid low clouds), following the freeway from a few hundred feet up. The rain was pelting our windscreen and we could not see anything other than blackness a good portion of the time. And we were still getting bounced around hard. My wife started sobbing and crying that she would rather be giving birth again than being in the plane and she was sure that we were going to die.

At that point I experienced an epiphany at a gut level that I can tell you but you probably will not really understand. It is not one thing that kills someone most of the time, it is a combination of a bunch of things. I had multiple opportunities to turn around and land the plane, but because of my stubbornness we just kept on going until I had broken my wife into a babbling mess, we were running low on fuel, and even a couple seconds of inattentiveness while switching between fuel tanks, changing radio stations or trying to determine exactly where we were could end up with us smashing into the ground. I ended up with my hands pretty full. We did make it back to our airport, hours behind schedule

Most of the things that kill us are actually combinations of things. If people had altered course when it would have been easy they would still be around. I did actually learn at a level that changed my behavior after that at least when it came to flying.

95 posted on 04/23/2022 10:52:11 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15

It is not one thing that kills someone most of the time, it is a combination of a bunch of things.


Repeat LOUD and OFTEN.................................


96 posted on 04/23/2022 10:54:20 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Shortstop7

Their mom had mental issues. Very sad.


97 posted on 04/23/2022 3:29:44 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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