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If Trump’s Rage Brings ‘Civil War,’ Where Will the Military Stand?
The Daily Beast ^ | October 6, 2019 | Patricia Ravalgi

Posted on 10/06/2019 6:33:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The moment may come when soldiers have to choose between the Constitution and Donald Trump. No doubt most will embrace the Constitution. But some will see that as a tough call.

Earlier this week Donald Trump, commander in chief of the U.S. armed forces, tweeted that his impeachment “will cause a Civil War” from which the country might never recover. Picking up on remarks made by an evangelical pastor on Fox News, Trump did not just say his removal would lead to a huge electoral defeat for the Democrats, or even mass demonstrations. He said “civil war”. Americans taking up arms against other Americans in his name.

“Civil War 2” started trending on Twitter. So, for a time, did #CivilWarSignup.

In the modern era, real civil wars have been the great affliction of Third World countries—conflicts that split nations and societies along political, ethnic or religious fault lines. They are very often accompanied by martial law and resolved by military intervention. Is this what the president has in mind? Where would the U.S. military stand in such a situation? A view from the inside indicates the armed forces are as divided as the rest of the country—and divided is a dangerous place for the U.S. military to find itself.

After spending 19 years in Washington with intelligence jobs in Congress, at the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security (focusing on counterterrorism and counterintelligence), I had the opportunity to join the commander’s Red Team at U.S. Central Command in Tampa, Florida.

Within a few years, however, CENTCOM’s senior leadership told us Red Team’s “alternative analysis” was “confusing” the commander. (Truth was, they really didn’t want any competing analysis contradicting what the traditional intelligence analysts were selling.)

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If Trump’s Rage Brings ‘Civil Warfare,’ The place Will the Navy Stand?
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1 posted on 10/06/2019 6:33:58 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The military will do its best to uphold the constitution.
Constitution, you know, that set of writings that progressives have never read.


2 posted on 10/06/2019 6:35:00 AM PDT by Da Coyote (eh)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The military will help put the rope around the lefts collective neck at the tribunal.


3 posted on 10/06/2019 6:35:27 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is a nonsensical premise spread by the left.


4 posted on 10/06/2019 6:36:38 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Military stands with the Patriots and they are working hard to bring the Deep State down. They have a few rebels against us but they are inconsequential.


5 posted on 10/06/2019 6:44:09 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think initially they will do what they are ordered to do.The later may be a problem.


6 posted on 10/06/2019 6:44:52 AM PDT by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The slant is strong in this one..
Very first 6 words blame it all on Trump.


7 posted on 10/06/2019 6:45:00 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would be illegal for the military to do anything. Posse comitatus.


8 posted on 10/06/2019 6:45:17 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

President Donald J. Trump IS the U.S. Constitution!!!


9 posted on 10/06/2019 6:47:42 AM PDT by Terry L Smith (.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump is the Republic.

He is the spirit of Washington and the Constitution.


10 posted on 10/06/2019 6:49:14 AM PDT by WashingtonFire (We stand for God, For Country and for Trump)
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To: Terry L Smith

And the CIC. Failure to obey orders is punishable by, what? Death in time of war?


11 posted on 10/06/2019 6:50:08 AM PDT by VietVet876
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Over your cold dead corpse, Patricia.

Semper Fidelis

12 posted on 10/06/2019 6:51:09 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who the he!! is this dip$h1t writing this stupid screed?

The US military will stand on the side of the people. Nearly all of the Perfumed Pentagon Princes are gone. The military will stay out of any civilian conflict (which I doubt will actually occur). If the Pentagon orders attacks on either side of a civilian conflict, the field grade officers and nearly all the rake and file will not comply. Our military personnel are not perfect, but they are literally the best citizens we have.


13 posted on 10/06/2019 6:51:42 AM PDT by Afterguard (Deplorable me!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“by these standards, even Ronald Reagan would be viewed as a socialist.“

What a bunch of BS.


14 posted on 10/06/2019 6:52:02 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If they follow their oath, they have to come down on the side of President Trump over the lawless Left.


15 posted on 10/06/2019 6:53:30 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: DarthVader

I support a one way free helicopter ride for John Brennan


16 posted on 10/06/2019 6:54:07 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Like a scene from The Manchurian Candidate, if you criticized Trump, they answered with “Hillary” did this, or “Obama” did that. It was almost as if they’d been programmed. ”

There is a reason for that though. It’s because the Dems have created a two-tier system where the laws that are applied to Republicans are not applied equally to Democrats. And that is one of the reasons Trump was elected in the first place.


17 posted on 10/06/2019 6:55:38 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He hinted but didn’t make clear how Obama gutted senior ranks of any hint of conservatism.


18 posted on 10/06/2019 6:56:03 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Caipirabob

Like the ATF at Waco, the military will follow the orders of whoever has the authority to give them orders. Plenty of SJWs in the military will open fire and throw people like us in mass graves. I have zero confidence the military will fight against the deep state swamp.


19 posted on 10/06/2019 6:56:15 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative.)
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To: Da Coyote

> The military will do its best to uphold the constitution. <

I would hope so.

Here’s a very unpleasant - but possible - scenario. We know the House Democrats hate Trump. So they decide to impeach Trump over some minor thing. That would be quite legal, as the Constitution gives the House the sole power to decide just what an impeachable offense is.

Then the Senate surprisingly convicts Trump. Too many GOP senators fold to Deep State pressure.

In this scenario, both the House and the Senate acted in a disgusting, yet legal and constitutional manner. What would the military do in that case? Would it be best for the country if they do nothing?


20 posted on 10/06/2019 6:56:26 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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