Sacramento Auschwitz survivor goes viral with sharp words at immigration forum

Sacramento Bee ^ | March 30, 2017 | Ed Fletcher

[rrrod]

Zackly like Soros

[rrrod]

Zackly like Soros

[vette6387]

“Where did all the antisemitism come from so quickly on FR ?”

In order for it to be considered anti-semitism, “real Jews” need to be involved.

I mean guys like Schumer and Schiff are nominally “Jews,” because of their birthright, but they, and guys like this old man are not really Jewish in the theological sense. And sadly, they give the whole of Jewry an undeserved bad name.
And FWIW, I get really tired of Jews using the anti-semitism card to protect those of their number who have lost their way. Just take a look at the phalanx of “Jews” who were in positions of responsibility/authority in the Obama Administration, not to mention the press. The “leadership” of this country’s news organizations reads like Schindler’s List, and the are ALL openly anti-Amercan.

[kearnyirish2]

Germany tried to get them to leave first, and killed most who didn’t; in the occupied territories, that choice wasn’t offered.

[vette6387]

“It would be interesting if one’s age was posted with the comments so that the more elderly among us could be ignored when they so obviously are suffering from a disease.”

And how is age a viable determinant? Idiots come in all age brackets. Some people are born idiots, and some people in their 90’s are still sharper that those who are decades younger. Because this guy holds the views he does, isn’t necessarily indicative of some age-related mental impairment. It could just be that he’s a grown up version of your typical Secular Progressive/Marxist Jew, like Bernie Sanders. I mean Schumer isn’t “demented” in the medical sense but he makes no more sense than this guy.

[Hacksaw]

The world was listening this week after the Auschwitz survivor stood at a Sacramento immigration forum Tuesday and compared the Trump administration’s hardline stance on refugees and undocumented immigrants to Nazi Germany.

I wonder if he is familiar with Israel's policy on refugees? I'm sure he is. So why would this Jewish man condemn the US for a policy that his ethnic and spiritual homeland of Israel enforces much more strictly? I certainly hope he doesn't think that the security and identity concerns of Jews are more important that those of non Jews.

[Dr. Wu]

A lot of what he said did not mqake sense to me. It seems like his real message was the current government is...Nazis!

[af_vet_1981]

In order for it to be considered anti-semitism, “real Jews” need to be involved.

I mean guys like Schumer and Schiff are nominally “Jews,” because of their birthright, but they, and guys like this old man are not really Jewish in the theological sense.

Your argument falls apart upon careful examination.
1. If a mob sets upon a man they think is a Jew, but he is really a Gentile, their hatred of him was flamed because they thought he was a Jew, not whether he actually was or not.
2. Besides the facty that claiming Jews are not really Jews is commonly misused by antisemites who deny the Holocaust, it is a logical fallacy when taken to an extreme. If meant in the sense of "You are not a real man until ...," it passes muster. If instead you claim a man is not really a man and a woman is not really a woman so that the laws of God and nature do not apply to them at that level, it is cognitive dissonance.

[af_vet_1981]

And how is age a viable determinant?

The body and mind break down with age, especially when not well tended. Perhaps you don't associate with the elderly all that much and do not see it happening.

[af_vet_1981]

My post #2 was NOT "offensive",

Yes it was. It was poisonous for FR.

[nopardons]

HORSESHIT!

You don't own this site, you aren't a MOD, you haven't even been here as long as I have and besides ALL of those things, you are nothing but a supercilious prig,with delusions of grandeur, and a faulty capacity to see bigotry where none exists.

[vette6387]

“Besides the facty that claiming Jews are not really Jews is commonly misused by antisemites who deny the Holocaust, it is a logical fallacy when taken to an extreme.”

I am a bigger supporter of Israel that most Jews I know, some of whom regard it as “that $hitty little country.” So If I understand you, we may not “segregate” Jews according to how they view Judaism? You might want to cue up the bit that Chris Rock did years ago about the fact that there are “two types of blacks,” and how the decent group despises the trash of their ethnicity as much or more than do whites. I submit to you that you can do the same thing to Jews, Catholics, etc., as well. As far as the Holocaust is concerned, I believe it happened and it was, and continues to be one of mankind's most grievous transgressions against some of our number.

[vette6387]

“Besides the facty that claiming Jews are not really Jews is commonly misused by antisemites who deny the Holocaust, it is a logical fallacy when taken to an extreme.”

I am a bigger supporter of Israel than most Jews I know, some of whom regard it as “that $hitty little country.” So If I understand you, we may not “segregate” Jews according to how they view Judaism? You might want to cue up the bit that Chris Rock did years ago about the fact that there are “two types of blacks,” and how the decent group despises the trash of their ethnicity as much or more than do whites. I submit to you that you can do the same thing to Jews, Catholics, etc., as well. As far as the Holocaust is concerned, I believe it happened, it was, and continues to be one of mankind's most grievous transgressions against some of our number, and there were Jews (like George Soros) who collaborated with the Nazis. Furthermore, they are a destructive force in the civilized world and should be called to account by decent Jews everywhere.