Posted on 02/11/2013 5:49:36 PM PST by Jyotishi
I comment on every kind of topic imaginable, I don’t know what you mean by ‘one note’
Wrong.
Pope St. Pontian, in 235, one of the first bishops of Rome, who was arrested and sent to the salt mines, and in order for a successor to be able to be elected in Rome, he resigned his office.
Pope Benedict IX, in the 1040s, resigned and attempted to re-acquire the papacy several times.
Pope Celestine V resigned after a shor time in the See, and Gregory XIII resigned as well.
You are a liar.
You are also becoming personally offensive.
The abuse button is getting hit.
It doesn't happen often but it has happened.
From Wikipedia: The Catholic Encyclopedia notes the historically obscure resignations of Pope Pontian[6] (230–235) and Pope Marcellinus (296–308), the historically postulated resignation of Pope Liberius (352–366),[3] and that one (unspecified) catalogue of popes lists Pope John XVIII as resigning office in 1009 and ending his life as a monk.[7][8] The first historically unquestionable[3] Papal resignation is that of Pope Benedict IX in 1045. In order to rid the Church of the scandalous Benedict, Pope Gregory VI gave Benedict "valuable possessions"[3] to resign the papacy in his favour.[9] Gregory himself resigned in 1046 because the arrangement he had entered into with Benedict was considered simony. A well-known resignation of a Pope is that of Pope Celestine V in 1294. After only five months of pontificate, he issued a solemn decree declaring it permissible for a Pope to resign, and then did so himself. He lived two more years as a hermit and then prisoner of his successor Pope Boniface VIII and was later canonised. Celestine's decree, and that of Boniface concurring, ended any doubt among canonists about the possibility of a valid Papal resignation.[10] Pope Gregory XII (1406–1415) resigned in 1415 in order to end the Western Schism, which had reached the point where there were three claimants to the Papal throne: Roman Pope Gregory XII, Avignon Antipope Benedict XIII, and Pisan Antipope John XXIII. Before resigning he formally convened the already existing Council of Constance and authorized it to elect his successor. There were als several "Conditional" resignations: Before setting out for Paris to crown Napoleon in 1804, Pope Pius VII (1800–1823) signed a document of resignation to take effect if he were imprisoned in France.[3] It has been claimed that during World War II, Pius XII drew up a document with instructions that, if he were kidnapped by the Nazis, he was to be considered to have resigned his office, and that the College of Cardinals were to evacuate to neutral Portugal and elect a successor.[11] In February 1989 Pope John Paul II wrote a letter of resignation to the Dean of the College of Cardinals, which said that he would resign from the papacy in one of two cases: if he had an incurable disease that would prevent him from exercising the apostolic ministry; or in case of a "severe and prolonged impairment" that would have kept him from being the pope.
Honest folks don’t defend pedophiles.
Where is Cardinal Law? Where is Cardinal Mahony? Where is Cardinal Bertone?
None of them are in prison.
In fact, even as of last week the LA Diocese is still hiding the names of those who knew about abuse. In violation of a COURT ORDER.
Weren’t you just touting a legal argument earlier and praising the rule of law?
The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles released 12,000 pages of internal files last Thursday on priests accused of sexually abusing children, saying that it was finally abiding by a settlement it signed with victims six years ago to make the painful history public.
But it now appears that the files the church released with much fanfare are incomplete and many are unaccounted for, according to the abuse victims’ lawyers. In addition, on many documents the names of church supervisors informed of abuse allegations were redacted by the archdiocese, in apparent violation of a judge’s order.
Evidently, the self-described “intellectual” posts of one Leftist bigoted troll on Free Republic have had such dynamite effect that they lead to the resignation of the Pope.
BS, the media and Democrats hate Christianity, they want everyone to think every priest is a pedophile!
> Pope ‘obstructed’ sex abuse inquiry
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/apr/24/children.childprotection
Rome- Pope talks “platitudes” on abuse; SNAP responds
Posted by Barbara Dorris on June 18, 2012
SNAP - Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests
Again, the pope alludes only to pedophile priests, not corrupt bishops.
Again, he focuses on the harm to the church, not the innocent, wounded children.
Again, he speaks in vague platitudes, refusing to even accurately name the crisis.
Again, he refuses to even recommend, much less take, a single effective prevention step.
Pope Benedict claims ‘mystery’ surrounding why priests abuse. The pontiff’s wrong: there’s little mystery here. In 1887, Lord Acton explained it best: “Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.”
Priest have long had power, sometimes almost absolute power, over devout and defenseless kids. So they’ve abused that power and those kids.
And even now, bishops have nearly absolute power over their dioceses, staff and in some places, their flocks. So they abuse that power, and ignore, hide and enable heinous crimes against kids.
Until secular authorities or the pope take dramatic steps to limit bishops’ power and hold them personally responsible for crimes by their employees, little will change. Until effective “checks and balances” are set up that “rein in” the nearly boundless authority of bishops, little will change.
http://www.snapnetwork.org/int_l_pope_talks_platitudes_on_abuse_snap_responds
“Honest folks don’t defend pedophiles.”
Honest folk do not call people pedophiles who are not. Honest people do not lie about others. You fail both tests.
Your bigotry is a stain on you and on the few here who post similar garbage. That your lies are even acceptable here is a stain on this site.
You are claiming no popes were ever imprisoned or martyred, and they were cowards? You are ignorant and should stop spreading anti-Catholic lies.
Thank you for calling it like it is.
What's deficient with the stated reason?
That's the problem with Catholic bashers: they pull blanket declarations out their poop-chute, then declare everyone who doesn't assent to their "inspiration," deceived.
Are images again allowed on the forum?
Pray for the Church, for the Pope, for the sinful priests, for the “sheep”, and for everybody on FR.
The Bible reminds us to pray for our enemies and do good to those who hurt us.
(In fact, if we all did that before we posted every time, I am convinced the dialog would improve.)
‘You are claiming no popes were ever imprisoned or martyred, and they were cowards?”
Nope.
“You are ignorant and should stop spreading anti-Catholic lies.”
What an odd - even psychotic - post. Get help, you need it.
Hey genius, this isn’t the religion forum.
And they wonder why we ignore their “evidence?”
Until secular authorities or the president take dramatic steps to limit school superintendants’ power and hold them personally responsible for crimes by their employees, little will change. Until effective “checks and balances” are set up that “rein in” the nearly boundless authority of school baords, superintendants and teachers unions, little will change.
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