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Last Resort (ABC)
9/28/12 | vanity

Posted on 09/28/2012 10:57:26 AM PDT by kidd

Anyone see "Last Resort" on ABC last night?


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: lastresort; tvshow
I thought it was a great show. Fishy orders to nuke Pakistan, Pakistan gets nuked twice, Navy seals with alternate orders.

Could be the best new show.

1 posted on 09/28/2012 10:57:31 AM PDT by kidd
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To: kidd
Enjoyed it & will be watching. One question...why wasn't the Colorado's missile (that landed near D.C.) shot down?


2 posted on 09/28/2012 11:07:36 AM PDT by pookie18 (ABO: That means you Mitt & Paul!)
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To: kidd

Navy SEALs in Pakistan saying ‘they got the wrong guy’ and a cover-up. Of course, it makes the SEALs look like the bad guys (at least so far). Hinting of a political based impeachment of a popular president. Interesting to see where this goes and the message they try to send.


3 posted on 09/28/2012 11:09:09 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: kidd

It has potential, but never underestimate Hollywood’s capability to take a good program and turn it into crap.

I am not sure the premise will hold. Apparently, something big is going on, but even that Senator (whose daughter was on the sub) seemed to be unaware of anything until armed military show up to take him into custody.

Unless and until they identify the villain, the rogue sub and crew are just that — rogue. The Captain did disobey a direct order.


4 posted on 09/28/2012 11:09:32 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: kidd
Didn't watch it but I love this kind of stuff. I liked Jericho, but it got to be a little more like a 'guy soap opera' than apocalyptic fiction. I LOVE the Walking Dead, 'tis amazing to see Rick Grimes descent into inhumanity.

I think a good show does not need writers, it needs 'interpreters' of an existing and good story arc, like T.W.D.

5 posted on 09/28/2012 11:11:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The American news media, the 'Pravda Press', is fully Soviet-ized.)
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To: kidd

http://tv.yahoo.com/blogs/fall-tv/exclusive-watch-abc-fall-drama-last-resort-full-061122041.html

Without commercial interruption. Link good today, no promises.


6 posted on 09/28/2012 11:12:46 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: TomGuy
Would you have obeyed it, knowing there was no reason for it to come through a backup system used only if the primary system is destroyed? The captain is a little too happy to be stranded on an island.
7 posted on 09/28/2012 11:16:16 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: kidd

'Last Resort' Review: 'Shield' Producer Presents Captivating 'What If?' Navy Drama






by Zachary Leeman 27 Sep 2012

We live in a world gone mad. Everyday we hear on the news about unrest in the Middle East, unrest here at home and how we are always on the brink of another war. The new ABC series "Last Resort" puts itself in the middle of this current reality and sets up a "what if?" scenario that is brought off with style and realism.

ABC has released the show's first episode online, but audiences can watch it the old fashioned way at 8 p.m. EST tonight.

Shawn Ryan ("Terriers," "The Shield") produces and co-writes the first episode, and Martin Campbell ("Casino Royale") takes on directing duties. Veteran actors Andre Braugher and Robert Patrick along with Scott Speedman headline the cast.

8 posted on 09/28/2012 11:27:59 AM PDT by Bratch
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To: kidd; All
There is so much wrong with the show:

PC happy portrayal of women on subs
Depicts SEALS as savage, Rambo-types
NATO now has observation posts in the Pacific?..World wide government propaganda...NATO are the good guys..US military are bad..a conspiracy to have a false LAUNCH order sent, and then, on top of it...to signal another US sub to take out a sister boat...there is soooo much wrong with that..so completely improbable
Oh yeah, the missile that the US sub launches from waay down under is over DC in 3 minutes?..Hello?
The bombers are 10 minutes out when detected..yet the captain and crew manage to get back to the boat, from a far distance...and sumberge, and launch...and of course..you can't dive..let alone launch missile, from a lagoon..

I could go on..but why bother..it's pure crapola..hope it gets cancelled in a few weeks..

9 posted on 09/28/2012 11:30:34 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: kidd

Oops. I thought this was a story by ABC about Obama’s new Hawaiian Home. (I don’t watch TV)


10 posted on 09/28/2012 11:39:39 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: ken5050
There is so much wrong with the show:

Well... it's TV, not real life.

If they portrayed everything to satisfy your list of complaints.... no one would watch it.

11 posted on 09/28/2012 11:42:36 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: ken5050

I dunno.

I watched the show with an eye for the liberal slant and didn’t see much of it at all.

The woman on the sub is portrayed as being green.
The Seals have alternate orders and are portrayed as dedicated.
The NATO post came across as laid back. I didn’t see the US military being portrayed as evil at all.

It’s not Tom Clancy quality, I’ll grant you that. But with only mild suspension of reality, there was a good story.


12 posted on 09/28/2012 11:51:47 AM PDT by kidd
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To: ken5050

I watched it. Not sure if I’ll keep recording it on my DVR. Loved Person of Interest (season 2) and Elementary (new series) on Thursday. Have also been enjoying Rake on Directv Audience channel.


13 posted on 09/28/2012 12:11:13 PM PDT by No Socialist
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To: UCANSEE2; ken5050

Nonsense, TV and movies used to be able to write a story line without making the Americans bad guys and idiots, and totally ignoring more realistic ways to get to the same plot lines.

When your adults males are groaning at the ridiculous portrayals of the military, then you are failing.


14 posted on 09/28/2012 12:18:41 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: No Socialist

I tried to watch Elementary, be the audio was horrible. The main characters mumbled too much and it was difficult to hear/understand what they were saying to each other.

I will watch the next episode, but I don’t hold out too much hope for it.


15 posted on 09/28/2012 1:08:37 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: kidd

Just watched and I agree.

In fiction and drama, it is not a question of what is real, but of what the audience can be made to accept as real.

Unfortunately, from medical to crime to military drama, the technical truths are often stretched beyond reality. “House” is not real-to-life in the day to day processes extant in a hospital. People Lost in time and space don’t have perfect hair and make-up. 15 years after the lights go out, people do not have perfectly whitened teeth and precise haircuts. Anyone watching for the sake of learning technical truths is watching for the wrong reason. How often do we see car explosions in film that are ridiculous compared to how it really happens? As kidd says: if it was *real*, no one would watch. We watch to escape and to think in a different reality for a period of time.

Remember, at the start, the POTUS is in process of being impeached. Can no one imagine a scenario in which a rogue administration wags the dog w/a nuke or where SEALs have undisclosed orders or where there are factions w/in the military-political complex that are enacting private agendas?

The name of the fiction game is “What if....”. This series looks as though it has a chance of being memorable.


16 posted on 09/28/2012 1:42:21 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Excellence
Link good today, no promises.

Thanks for the link. Watching now. As long as they don't turn this into another homo-promo, it looks promising.

17 posted on 09/28/2012 2:13:06 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: kidd

Despite the problems I liked it overall. Granted the last 15 minutes I was on the phone way off and was seeing on screen. I didn’t catch the part about the bombers being close and apparently how fast that sub could get out and deploy.


18 posted on 09/28/2012 2:25:38 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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I agree that a lot of things were wrong:

* The SEALs confronting the skipper of a nuclear sub on his own bridge is way off the mark.

* The idea of a US attack sub firing on a US boomer is unlikely as the skipper of the attack sub is probably friends with the skipper of the boomer. If ordered to fire on another US sub I’m thinking the skipper of the attack sub would demand confirmation of the order and then he’d contact his fellow skipper first to confirm whatever story he was being told by Washington...and then there’d be TWO submarines defying Washington.

* The 15 minute evolution time is impossible, but it sure does make the Navy look good so I won’t count this as a criticism.

* The two B-1 bombers would not attack a boomer for the simple reason that the aircrews would be questioning why they’re attacking a sub they were previously told had been sunk?

* For that matter, the country would be going nuts asking why a US sub that was supposedly sunk by the Pakistanis was not sunk but was attacked by another US sub? I’m thinking that would be enough to overthrow an Administration and not just impeach one.

* A nuke detonating 200 miles off of the Eastern seaboard would not be harmless and would probably kill a lot of people at sea in merchant ships, other Navy ships, and passenger vessels not to mention aircraft aloft near the event.

* I agree that the captain of the Colorado seems a little too eager to skip out on America and to create a new country on his island.

* The SEAL in the bar would not have had a long-winded conversation with the local ganglord and his thugs and would’ve just neutralized them as the hostiles that they were. Especially operating outside of the usual PC ROE.


19 posted on 09/28/2012 4:22:57 PM PDT by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: MeganC

Great minds DO think alike!!!!


20 posted on 09/28/2012 4:53:32 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: MeganC

Those points are exactly right. I’ll give it a chance, but as soon as it turns far left, I’m gone. Which I’m afraid it may.


21 posted on 09/28/2012 9:18:09 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: aimhigh

It’s also available as a free download from iTunes, along with “Vegas” and “Elementary.”
Speaking of “Elementary,” I really don’t think Benedict Cumberbatch has anything to worry about.


22 posted on 09/29/2012 6:14:38 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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I can't believe that it took until post #9 for someone to state the repulsive problems with this terrible show.

Thank you.

I've noticed that even ordinary cop shows now days have the cops breaking more laws than the criminals.

I think this is what women do to the workplace - fantasy and illogic take over!

23 posted on 09/30/2012 8:21:56 PM PDT by donna (Pray for revival.)
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You’re welcome....always nice to hear from a fellow Freeper from the great class of 1998..do you realized we joined THREE weeks apart?..ah, the good old days..(g)


24 posted on 10/01/2012 7:45:32 AM PDT by ken5050 (Laura Ingraham:"If the GOP can't beat Obama in this economy; shut down the party!")
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To: MacMattico

“Those points are exactly right. I’ll give it a chance, but as soon as it turns far left, I’m gone. Which I’m afraid it may.”

In my experience the left-wing preaching starts by the third episode if it is going to happen at all.


25 posted on 10/01/2012 9:02:37 AM PDT by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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