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Ted Nugent: ‘Best’ if South had won Civil War
Seattle Post intelligencer ^ | July 6, 2012 | N/A

Posted on 07/07/2012 4:51:17 AM PDT by raulgomez05

Aging rocker and reality TV personality Ted Nugent is emerging, even ahead of Donald Trump, as Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s most embarrassing public supporter.

Nugent is at it again, reacting to the Supreme Court’s ruling upholding the Affordable Care Act by writing in the Rev. Sun Myung Moon’s Washington Times that America would have been better off had the South won the Civil War.

A full Nugent rant, which might be subtitled “Robe Rage”:

“The bottom line is that Chief Justice Roberts’ traitor vote will ensure more monumental spending and wasted taxes and put almost 15 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product under one of the world’s most bureaucratic, ineffective, incompetent and grossly expensive systems ever devised by man: our out-of-control federal government.

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To: vetvetdoug

“Northern racism still exists because many of the Northerners have not learned to live with the blacks as have Southerners.”

My dad used to say that the Northerner would tell the black man he could go higher, but could not come closer. The Southerner would tell the black man he could come closer, but could not go higher. There is too much truth in those generalizations. Happily they are fading to some extent.

My favorite general of the Civil War is Stonewall Jackson. He defied the federals and their murderous invasion, even as he defied Virginia’s proscription against black literacy. He maintained a clandestine school to teach blacks to read, so they could read the Bible and be saved. A rebel’s rebel.


21 posted on 07/07/2012 5:35:12 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Vermont Lt
So, what you are saying is that if the south won, slavery would have been abolished? Sell that somewhere else.

No, don't. FR is a place for thinking and rational people. Anyone with half a brain, and a history book, would conclude that world-wide, the western practice of slavery would have died out within a generation. Of course, Africans themselves continue to practice that barbarism.
22 posted on 07/07/2012 5:35:41 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: raulgomez05

Except for that whole slavery thing.


23 posted on 07/07/2012 5:36:59 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Quickgun

There are a lot of states like Maryland and Vermont which you could take one or two counties out of and they’d be perfectly normal red states. If the country ever really does split up, we need to ensure it’s along county lines and not by states.


24 posted on 07/07/2012 5:37:15 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: Vermont Lt
Slavery as an institution would have been the economical thing for he south to do.

Actually, economic analysis in the 1850s by Frederick Law Olmsted and others indicated that paying people wages was more economical than slavery, due to increased productivity of wage workers. The thought at the time was that slavery would disappear in just a few decades.

Note also that slavery seemed to be on the way out in the late 1700s -- then Ely Whitney invented the cotton gin and created a huge industry around a new cash crop. The fact is that slavery was an anomaly. Fifty years after the cotton gin it was once again seen as a sloppy way to run an economy. It was limping along and would have withered away without the war.

25 posted on 07/07/2012 5:39:11 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: varmintman
There are a lot of states like Maryland and Vermont which you could take one or two counties out of and they’d be perfectly normal red states. If the country ever really does split up, we need to ensure it’s along county lines and not by states.

Until a few years ago, I would have thought talk of this country splitting up was nonsense. Now, I don't see how the left and right could ever reconcile, especially with all of the violence the left has unleashed on Conservatives who don't share their "tolerant" views.

26 posted on 07/07/2012 5:40:01 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (With choices like Palin, Cain, and Bachmann, what could go wrong? Now we know.)
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To: Mustangman
I know we're all a little edgy because our freedom is being sucked away from us by the current administration but, to say that it would have been better if the south had won the civil war is nuts.

Worse than nuts, we'd have been an English colony in all but name starting from 1865 and ending when Jesus comes back.

27 posted on 07/07/2012 5:46:09 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: ClearCase_guy
The thought at the time was that slavery would disappear in just a few decades.

Slavery would likely have died out by the early 1900's as a result of industrialization, but few probably foresaw that in the 1860's. The south in general sure didn't see it, and fought hard to keep it. The question is, would you have wanted to be a slave in the south during those few decades?

28 posted on 07/07/2012 5:47:03 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (With choices like Palin, Cain, and Bachmann, what could go wrong? Now we know.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
Where did the slaves come from? were white men going around beating the bushes of Africa looking for stray black men and women to enslave? ... or were they just prisoners of tribal warfare between blacks who would have simply been executed (as they are today) if the white slave traders hadn't been purchasing them from the black victors of these tribal conflicts?

People simply ignore the facts and believe what they want to believe or are told to believe by the media.

29 posted on 07/07/2012 5:54:22 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: raulgomez05

Ted…drugs are bad, mmkay?


30 posted on 07/07/2012 5:55:51 AM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: NTHockey
Was thinking more along the lines of deportation or this

All politicians are not above the law

31 posted on 07/07/2012 5:57:17 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: raulgomez05

I’d say, “better” if the South had won, “best” if the War had never taken place. I’ve said before, slavery was moribund, it would have died in the South without the Civil War. For the Freedman, the benefits were tangible, but modest. The cost of the War was enormous. Neither side would have entered the War if they had foreseen the cost.


32 posted on 07/07/2012 5:57:17 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: Mustangman
Who looks back with more shame and regret: The Nazi's or the southern racists? I pretty much think it's a tie. Still, those civil rights issues have been resolved long ago and those days, though regretful, are done.

You lack understanding of the issues which led to the last Civil War. Let's hope your stupidity ends if there is another one. With the ignorance you display here, I have little hope that nothing but totalitarianism is in our future.

33 posted on 07/07/2012 6:03:38 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Vermont Lt

What I am saying is if the South had won, jerks like you would not live in my country. You would be living in Canada II, me in the CSA.


34 posted on 07/07/2012 6:06:27 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Everything you posted is historically accurate, but I don’t don’t see where anything I posted contradicts that. If you want to call me out with the point that southern white slave traders weren’t the only bad guys in the slave trade, no need, I agree. That didn’t make it right.


35 posted on 07/07/2012 6:06:27 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (With choices like Palin, Cain, and Bachmann, what could go wrong? Now we know.)
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To: Mustangman
THIS COUNTRY HAS ON IT THE MARK OF CAIN!!!!!
36 posted on 07/07/2012 6:07:21 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: varmintman
There are a lot of states like Maryland and Vermont which you could take one or two counties out of and they’d be perfectly normal red states. If the country ever really does split up, we need to ensure it’s along county lines and not by states.

Study the history of the state of West Virginia. What you describe is what was done.

37 posted on 07/07/2012 6:10:55 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va; Mustangman
"Who looks back with more shame and regret: The Nazi's or the southern racists? I pretty much think it's a tie. Still, those civil rights issues have been resolved long ago and those days, though regretful, are done"

Ignoramus! What a despicable thing to say. And . . ."civil rights issues resolved long ago" . . by whom? Johnson and the Great Society? The democrats and their racist programs set back those issues by a century!

38 posted on 07/07/2012 6:14:40 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: Mustangman

I know we’re all a little edgy because our freedom is being sucked away from us by the current administration but, to say that it would have been better if the south had won the civil war is nuts.

The history of southern racism following the civil war is also a great shame that we’d all like to forget about
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Nugent said “it may have been better had the South won the civil war”-—may have.

*snip* If Loewen’s first priority is to unveil what he calls the “hidden history” of sundown towns, his second is to debunk the widely held idea that when the issue is race, the South is always “the scene of the crime,” as James Baldwin famously wrote. The incidence of sundown communities in the South, Loewen reports, was actually far lower than it was in a Midwestern state such as Illinois, in which roughly 70 percent of towns were sundown towns in 1970. “This does not make whites in the traditional South less racist than [those] in . . . other regions of the country,” he suggests. */snip*
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/20/AR2005102001715.html

I am sick and tired of the South being the whipping boy.

“I thought that stuff happened in Florida or Mississippi somewhere, but not here in New York State,” Mayor Mike Bloomberg lashed out in anger this week
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2903402/posts

Whenever anyone wants to mimic a stupid person they generally break into their very best contorted, fake, southern accent.

The South doesn’t have the market on racism, it doesn’t and never did. Racism was/is and remains an American problem, not a regional one.

Slavery needed to end. Though, slavery would have ended without the war and I’m glad it didn’t take the longer route. I just wish it could have happened without the war.

I am sick of bigoted Yankees using the South as their example of everything negative, backwards and embarrassing. It’s time the Northern folk quit looking down their nose shaking a finger—they have plenty to tend in their own gardens.

What may have been better had the South won...taxes would remain in the South and not go to bigoted Northern states who look down their noses at the South and who aren’t Right-to-Work states. We would be free of that cancer.

Unions are destroying this country and they are freaking communist. Mostly the South is right-to-work.


39 posted on 07/07/2012 6:17:39 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: raulgomez05

I think Ted Nugent is less embarrassing to Romney than the New Black Panthers are to Obamugabe, those same Black Panthers who talk about killing “whitey” and who put a bounty on the life of George Zimmerman.

Of course the morons in the dying mainstream media don’t give a damn about those elements of Obamugabe’s support.


40 posted on 07/07/2012 6:19:42 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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