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"Stand Your Ground" Cases: Defendants More Likely To Walk Free If Victims Are Black: Report
International Business Times ^ | June 3, 2012 | Laura Matthews

Posted on 06/04/2012 11:06:24 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

When George Zimmerman fatally shot unarmed Florida teenager Trayvon Martin in February, he wasn't immediately arrested and charged because of the state's controversial 2005 "Stand Your Ground" law.

At the time police did not have any evidence to prove Zimmerman wasn't acting in self-defense. After the case was reviewed by a prosecutor, Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder and is now in a Florida jail awaiting trial.

But could Zimmerman beat the charge?

Some killers and vicious attackers are walking free today as a result of the Stand Your Ground law, a report in the Tampa Bay Times shows. The Florida newspaper probed almost 200 Stand Your Ground cases and found the following:

-- The law was successful for those who used it to dodge prosecution, as almost 70 percent have been freed.

-- The law tends to work for defendants whose victims were black, as 73 percent of those who killed black people were not penalized, while 59 percent of those who killed white people were penalized.

-- Defense attorneys are using the law in dozens of cases with minor or no injuries, so the number of cases involving the law is increasing;

-- People have gone free after shooting their victims in the back.

-- In almost one-third of the cases evaluated, the defendants were the ones who initiated the fights, shot their unarmed victims, or pursued them.

Of course, the outcome of the case is dependent on how you use the law.

For example, Marissa Alexander was sentenced to 20 years in prison last month after being convicted of three counts of aggravated assault for firing a warning shot during a dispute with her husband.

The 31-year-old claimed she discharged her handgun into the wall to protect herself from her husband, who she said abused her. Her husband had two children with him when Alexander fired the shot, so officials charged her with three counts of aggravated assault, according to MSNBC.

Her attorney said that Alexander acted in self-defense and also used the Stand Your Ground law. But Alexander left herself open to prosecution for her use of potentially deadly force, even though she felt threatened, because the jury found she left during the relevant argument, got a gun, and returned to confront her husband.

The judge in the case said that when Alexander returned to the house she showed she was not in fear for her life.

A Miami-Dade state attorney's office representative, Ed Griffith, told the Tampa Bay Times the Stand Your Ground law is "malleable" and is "arising now in the oddest of places."

One attorney told the newspaper that a defense counsel would be "crazy not to use it in any case where it could apply."

"With the more publicity the law gets, the more individuals will get off," said Zachary Weaver, a lawyer in West Palm Beach.

Read the comprehensive report by the Tampa Bay Times to learn more.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: banglist; blackcrime; georgezimmerman; liberalmedia; mediabias; standyourground; trayvon; zimmerman
Could this article be any more one-sided?
1 posted on 06/04/2012 11:06:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He killed Tray in self defense.

What is it about getting your head slammed (and SEEN BY AT LEAST ONE WITNESS) doesn't the DA understand??

2 posted on 06/04/2012 11:09:24 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Probably because the criminal idiots who got themselves shot were more likely to be black thugs.


3 posted on 06/04/2012 11:10:16 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Stand Your Ground" Cases: Defendants More Likely To Walk Free If Victims Are Black: Report

In a stand-your-ground case, the victim is the guy who was doing the shooting.
4 posted on 06/04/2012 11:11:59 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Sacajaweau

Eric Holder. Any other questions?


5 posted on 06/04/2012 11:12:33 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'd like to see some stats on this.

White on White

Black on Black

Black On White

White on Black, etc.

That would be helpful to see if Whites get off more or are assaulted more often and by whom.

6 posted on 06/04/2012 11:12:44 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Stand Your Ground" Cases: Defendants More Likely To Walk Free If Victims Are Black: Report

Only because the perpetrator of the crime against which the defendant had to stand his ground was more likely to be black than any other race.
7 posted on 06/04/2012 11:13:21 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Blacks are far more likely to commit crimes.

Cause, meet effect.

8 posted on 06/04/2012 11:14:27 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Since Blacks make up 12% of the population but commit over 70% of the violent crimes, is this really surprising?


9 posted on 06/04/2012 11:16:38 AM PDT by montag813
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So let me see if I've got this straight... the "defendents" are the victims who were protecting themselves from the "victims", who were the perpetrators?

What an upside down bizarro world this author lives in.
10 posted on 06/04/2012 11:21:13 AM PDT by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: aruanan

Maybe technically, but that’s not how this article uses the terms.


11 posted on 06/04/2012 11:25:45 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: aruanan

Maybe technically, but that’s not how this article uses the terms.


12 posted on 06/04/2012 11:25:48 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...as 73 percent of those who killed black people were not penalized,

White victims asserting STG against black perps?

...while 59 percent of those who killed white people were penalized.

Black perps attempting to hide behind SYG against white victims?

13 posted on 06/04/2012 11:42:11 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe some “educatin’” needs to be done to the hoody wearin’ yutes in the hood.

If they’d learn that you can get blown away by a citizen if you try and kill ‘em, then maybe they’ll think twice before assaulting someone walking around THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD.

Naaaah.


14 posted on 06/04/2012 11:43:12 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Sopater
“War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, 1984
15 posted on 06/04/2012 11:43:17 AM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Could this article be any more one-sided?

Well... yes.

The author could have left out the following sentence: "At the time police did not have any evidence to prove Zimmerman wasn't acting in self-defense. "

16 posted on 06/04/2012 11:47:59 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
This law has indeed resulted in more blacks killed per capita -- no question. Never mind that the stats are completely in-line with the makeup of violent offenders.

Obviously, this law is racist.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

17 posted on 06/04/2012 1:23:53 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Sacajaweau
The law tends to work for defendants whose victims were black, as 73 percent of those who killed black people were not penalized, while 59 percent of those who killed white people were penalized.

and 78% of the nba is black, so the nba must be racist against white people.

18 posted on 06/04/2012 1:28:48 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (whites are 8 times more likely to be victimized by black criminals than blacks by white criminals)
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To: Joe Brower
I sincerely hope I never have to shoot anyone. Regardless of their skin color.

Although, if they want to play stupid games... They WILL win stupid prizes.

19 posted on 06/04/2012 1:32:44 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s the article bitching about? Black on black crime is most of the crimes... so those black perps must be walking.


20 posted on 06/04/2012 1:41:27 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No, it could not be any more one sided. Most-likely illegal gun carrying, violent criminal histories, and a lack of knowledge about the law with the self control to abide by the law and fake stories that don’t match evidence has something to do with blacks losing cases.

A lot of blacks are getting shot because blacks are bullies. I am waiting for a pack of racist “yutes” to get blown away.

There was a hysterical response from Philadelphia authories when whites started talking about defending themselves from black hoodklan attacks in newspaper forums.


21 posted on 06/04/2012 1:47:57 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“At the time police did not have any evidence to prove Zimmerman wasn’t acting in self-defense”

They still don’t.


22 posted on 06/04/2012 1:56:16 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The law tends to work for defendants whose victims were black, as 73 percent of those who killed black people were not penalized, while 59 percent of those who killed white people were penalized.”

Did it ever occur to this author that black “victims” may be more likely to have placed reasonable fear of death or grievous bodily harm in the minds of their killers?


23 posted on 06/04/2012 1:58:59 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
At the time police did not have any evidence to prove Zimmerman wasn't acting in self-defense.

Zimmerman was interrogated for five hours and took a lie detector test which he passed. There was no evidence then and there is still none now.

After the case was reviewed by a prosecutor, Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder and is now in a Florida jail awaiting trial.

No -- the first prosecutor found no evidence to charge him with a crime. Then the race hustlers got involved, and invented evidence, like the invisible earwitness DeeDee who will never take a lie detector test and will probably be a no-show at her deposition and the trial if there is one.

24 posted on 06/04/2012 2:12:52 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Stand Your Ground" Cases: Defendants More Likely To Walk Free If Victims Are Black

Maybe that's because it's so hard to find an urban jury without a member having been violently assaulted by a black.

25 posted on 06/04/2012 2:13:31 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Could this article be any more one-sided?

Let's see...

-- The law was successful for those who used it to dodge prosecution, as almost 70 percent have been freed.

Assumes that the default in self-defense cases is that they should be prosecuted, if not they "dodged" it.

-- The law tends to work for defendants whose victims were black, as 73 percent of those who killed black people were not penalized, while 59 percent of those who killed white people were penalized.

Since when is the assailiant in a self-defense case become the "victim"? Also, blacks are per capita much more likely to commit criminal assualts. Sorry, truth hurts.

Nope.

26 posted on 06/04/2012 4:00:58 PM PDT by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Stand Your Ground" Cases: Defendants More Likely To Walk Free If Victims Are Black

OK. And if you do further research which shows no difference in the danger present in the incidents or the criminality of the "victims", you might be onto something. In the meantime, it's just racebaiting, and very likely misleading racebaiting, so bugger off.

27 posted on 06/04/2012 7:58:18 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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