Posted on 01/28/2010 5:18:04 AM PST by iloveamerica1980
You’re right — the life forms in Obama LaLa Land are just too low to comprehend even the smallest nuggets of fact.
Interesting, I found this article from Kenya with the name spelled Helton, hmmm ???
KENYA: Acute watery diarrhoea kills eight in Coast Province – two deaths were reported in Mombasa, three in Kilifi District and three others in health centres in Malindi District
Posted on June 18, 2009
Photo: Noor Ali/IRIN Children fetching water: An outbreak of acute watery diarrhoea in Coast Province has been attributed to poor sanitation and lack of clean drinking water following heavy rain in most parts of the province
MOMBASA, – An outbreak of acute watery diarrhoea (AWD) has killed eight people and infected 21 others in Kenya’s Coast Province, according medical sources.
Over the past two weeks two deaths were reported in Mombasa, three in Kilifi District and three others in health centres in Malindi District.
“We are still receiving more patients from various parts of the province who have been diagnosed with the ailment. However, we are doing everything possible to provide the necessary treatment needed,” Helton Maganga, chief administrator at the Coast Provincial General Hospital, the largest referral hospital in the province, told IRIN on 18 June.
Maganga said a special ward had been set aside to cater for the AWD patients.
The outbreak was attributed to poor sanitation and lack of clean drinking water following heavy rain in most parts of the province which has destroyed sewage pipes and swept away pit latrines.
it has a date even lucas has allways confirmed. Feb 19th 2009
Upper left corner:
http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c376a28c3663.jpg
Here is from Lucas, Feb 19th 2009b is the day he affirms to have been at CPGH.
Again Lucas has confirmed many times that the stam is there and it’s Feb 19th 2009.
Take a better look. No thin ice there
Ok you seem to be new to this. Maganga has been spelled Helton and Heltan by different articles, There are however 2 kenyan medical directories (both linked months ago)
and 1 video that spell Helton (linked months ago)
Another problem, once you’ve understood Feb 19th is that he even wasn’t Chief Administrator on that day.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2427610/posts
Go to my post 83
if these people will confirm my evidence you will know. Otherwise you won’t
Dear Lucas,
this time I have another question to ask you. It concerns the dynamics of your obtaining the piece of paper.
You have said that on Feb 19th you bribed a policeman at CPGH in order for him to look the other way while you retrieved the document from files. The paper states it was produced in 1961. Correct ?
But then this same paper is stamped and signed and dated by Dr,Maganga which you say was Chief Administrator on the same Feb 19th 2009
Let’s imagine just for a moment that his name is Helton and that he was the ca administraor on Feb 19th 2009.
How did you get that stamp and signature ?
It is impossible that all the certificates on file were allready stamped and dated with that day’s date. It is equally impossible that Maganga “resigns” every single bc on record daily.
I mean did you fisically bring the document to Maganga in order for him to sign it ?
Or did you bribe him as well ?
At some point of your story Maganga would have put his signature on the document. Since it was signed by him on Feb 19th, the day you entered the hospital, either he signed it before your arrival or after. Logic says it should be after.
But truly I can’t imagine anyone stealing a document from a hospital archive and then going to the head officer of the same hospital to have it signed.
How did you manage to do this ?
You better put on your glasses. There are two different stamps!
The first is with the official hospital stamp, spelling the name Helton "typed" and hand written. But that is without a date stamp saying nothing when it was put on that document!!
The second stamp with a date is when the document was procured. I also showed you from an Kenyan news article the name is spelled Helton!!!
What are you talking about now? Have you really forgotten what has been stated on the youtube forum scores of times now, OR EVEN THE EMAILS THAT I SENT TO YOU?
The birth certificate wasn’t stolen from the hospital.
Aside from bribing military officers I had to bribe the admin at CPGH as well. The military officers didn’t steal anything. The birth certificate was handed to me from the admin at CPGH.
This has been discussed many times.
Again I am still waiting for you explain how you KNOW that Helton’s name is spelled wrong. Yes, I know, you have online sources, Kenyan news outlet and two kenyan online medical directories.
But when we look up other admin at Coast Province General Hospital, we find that their name is spelled different way as well. Moreover, their name is spelled many different ways.
I believe that by now we all know who we are talking about, her name is (or might be because nobody can ascertain which spelling is correct) Merry Othigo. Or it might me Jennifer Othiga.
You know, the lady that you claim was chief admin on 02.19.2009.
Which spelling is correct? Merry or Mary. Jennifer or Jeniffer or Janet or Joyce? Jenniper or Jenipper or Janet or Joyce? Othigo or Othiga? Then theres her other name that fits in somewhere, Otieno.
The sources for her name come from MEDICAL DOCUMENTS and MEDICAL REPORTS and MEDICAL DIRECRTORIES well as Kenyan news sources.
Do you understand now?
Please stop replying that it is not relevant. As you can see the readers find your arguments to be sort of light of brain.
There are many more OFFICIAL sources for the different spellings of Merry Othigo than you could ever dream of finding for Helton Maganga.
Tell us now how you know that Helton Maganga’s name is (as you claim) “Heltan”.
Your theory doesn’t make any sense. You leave us no other option but assume that you are a paid Obot that spends day and night posting disinformation. Take a look at your posts kim. Your comments don’t make much sense.
Then there’s the fact that every time you stray off subject and then someone calls you out for your faulty off subject discussion you (kim) then make the claim that we are the ones that are discussing off subject topics as a distraction. This is another sign of a paid Obot.
Lastly, tell us more about your PHONE CONVERSATION with Helton Maganga in September or October 2009. If Helton was not chief admin in February 2009 (as you, Kim, make claim of) then why didn’t Helton tell you that on the phone???
Please don’t make the claim that your talk with Helton Maganga is irrelevant. Do you know how crazy an answer such as that sounds?
Can you answer or are you going to reply to me with a Wikipedia copy and paste about Egyptian language?
Thank you.
Who are these people of your friends, we would like to know their NAMES???
I’m still trying to find out why you went to the Dominican Republic to make your video? What was the point of running around a slum and then standing up all those Dominican kids? Surely you didn’t think anyone would actually believe that was shot in Kenya... did you?
Who were trying to fool?
in due time shopuld they speak you will know their names. If they wish, they will speak. I will stay quiet.
Pure B.S.!!!
Mik
It does look like the Feb date is for this signature of Heton (Heltan) .
Is there anyway to see his signature from another document to compare the 2 signatures?
Is it possible to find out from the Hospital if Heton (Heltan) would normally stamp and sign BC documents?
From my dealings with Smith Im convinced he has perpetrated a fraud and while it is certainly not a big deal in my life I would like for that fraud to be confirmed and for Lucas to get off his tiny stage .
From looking at your posts I assume you are convinced Lucas is on the level. Perhaps you should get busy and prove the BC is real.
I think it is Lucas’s job to prove his story is real and the Document is valid.
He evidently takes the position he has to prove nothing and it is up to the naysayers to validate their claims.
I believe that has already happened in the minds of most people and the process is continuing. This accounts for the very few numbers of people who consider Lucas credible.
Now, I will repeat the unanswered question again: Have you personally been in Africa or in any other underdeveloped countries, or have you ever dealt with their authorities specifically by yourself, please no "tap-dancing"???
But this two "faced" poster/spammer who gets his "evidences" from very DU leaning sites is quite new here!!
I think he is a paid "Obama 2.0" like the other "AFTER-BIRTHERS" from La-La-Land!!!
yes I have but not in this instance (Kenya BC).
Concerning the stamp I suggest you send a private e-mail to Lucas.
woofie,
In a previous post I suggest Lucas he should show such a parallel stamp since he had just confirmed he never met Maganga in person
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