Posted on 12/08/2009 9:39:37 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
An interesting comment from CPR:
I can't speak for all white people, but I think white people want the Magic Negro because they want forgiveness. Obama's election and some of the incredibly weird things I heard some white people say about it made me realize that there is a fundamental injury that all americans carry with them (slavery and its aftermath) that has never been addressed adequately, and on the white side of the street, there is more unexplored/unexpressed guilt (which morphs into defensiveness or fear pretty easily) than I ever would have guessed. So in an archetypal way, the "unconditional gentle love of a maternal black figure" to a white person is about forgiveness, I think. Of course, it is on the cheap, as the one being forgiven hasn't faced what they need forgiveness for.
I don't have much experience with "white guilt," and really haven't spent much time examining it. But I like this point about absolution on the cheap. One problem with the debate around reparations, when it was hot, was that it allowed us to go where we are all most comfortable--our respective corners--and yell at each other. The focus on money, or on some form of direct payback, obscured a potentially deeper discussion in which white folks acknowledge some of the distressing roots of this country, and black folks acknowledge that some debts can not be repaid. Instead we got this cheap, cartoonish debate about cash. It's like everything else.
And yet it can't afford to be like everything else. The Black-White divide, to steal a phrase, this country's birth defect. (More accurately, it's one of two birth defects.) Some of it's greatest patriots--Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King, Frederick Douglass--were consumed by it.(continued)
The Author
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Maybe the people who want forgiveness feel they have done something to be forgiven for. I would guess that maybe deep down these liberals have personal animus or some negative feelings towards blacks that makes them feel guilty.
Ditto. I would also add that it’s a rather senseless emotion to feel guilty for something one had absolutely nothing to do with.
What’s this guy been smoking?
My ancestors have been here in the South 200 years. I have no guilt.
And I befriend black folks because I like them, not because I owe them something different from the same respect I owe any other person.
Count on it! As I commented the other day, some of the most vile-mouthed racists I’ve ever run into were self-proclaimed liberals. In private they use slur words, mock minorities, and speak in a paternalistic manner about non-whites. But because of their political affiliations, they think they are innoculated against criticism.
If I were them I’d feel mighty guilty.
Well, when the racists dissolve the Black Caucus, then I’ll start paying attention. (I’m still trying to contact the chairman of the White Caucus ... anybody got an email address?) /s
If a white writer has submitted such a piece of sophomoric pseudo-psychological trash, it would have been returned if and only if return postage had been included.
Look at what affirmative action has done to writing, publishing, ad nauseam.
His last paragraph had this:
“..... I think a lot of us can come to some peace, can come to understand that whatever happened to us, there are limits on what anyone can do to make it right, and while those limits have to be pushed, some of this we’re going to have to carry ourselves. And then with a even broader sense we can understand that our suffering is not singular, that it isn’t the only suffering......”
Sure: http://byrd.senate.gov/byrd_email.html
“whatever happened to us, “
what’s happened to HIM?
Affirmative Action, appeasements, apologies, gimme programs, ...
Most of todays, America did not benefit from “slave” activities, nor did their ancestors.
For those that were involved a lot have time has passed, also, a lot of the “wealth “ “taken” from the blacks has been squandered. As far as “income” goes? Today farm labor is still the lowest paid job going with the workers narrowly getting by. The farm owners? Are having a tough time as well. I doubt things were much different then.
The blacks should be thankful they are here and have every opportunity open to them to fall in the system and be someone as opposed to their brothers in Guinea, Sierra leone, Liberia, Ivory Coast, Ghana etc etc.
Most people in West Africa wish they could be in America..... for the opportunity that used to be.
Bingo, my ancestors were slaves under Ottoman rule for 500 years and I have yet to see the Turkish government get cornered into payment a plan.
Guilt is nothing more than anger turned inward, so I have no idea why I would have anything to feel guilty for. PC bullshit is so prevalent in our society at large and ingrained into our youth that “white guilt” has become the populist’s tool of choice in drumming up kooky ways to hand over our freedoms to these communist hacks.
I’m still looking for the Caucasian College Fund
It’s called a lemonade stand.
Lemonade stand! That’s rich. LOL.
Since I am waiting for a conference call with the engineers, I may as well take the time to point out a few points on the “reparations” issue.
Central to the black racists pushing “reparations” is these undeniable facts:
1. Blacks are poorer than whites.
True, but why are blacks poorer than whites? The answer is in the next fact.
2. Blacks hold lower paying jobs. Why do blacks hold lower paying jobs is answered in #3. below.
3. For cultural, not genetic reasons, blacks reject academic hard work in schools. Thus they are less able to compete for better jobs because they are less educated.
4. Blacks have fostered an ‘inner city’ culture which glamorizes “attitude”, foul language, loathsome behavior towards women, crime - all of which may create extra costs for any employer who hires them.
Reverend Manning has it right. Acting like the “Long Legged Mack Daddy”, or almost any of the iconic figures in urban Black Culture is no way to go through life.
Blacks are indeed suffering, not because of slavery, but because of their own choices.
I think this is the real kernel of the problem. Overcompensating for one's own secret racism would explain a lot of this. And it doesn't take a psychiatrist to figure it out, either.
We son’t like your kind there mister.
We’re gonna take you and your kind and put you in a re=education camp there fella.
You WILL pay.
Lot of crap huh?
Lock and load.
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