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Dark matter mapped - First three-dimensional picture of elusive matter throws up mystery.
news@nature.com ^ | 7 January 2007 | Katharine Sanderson

Posted on 01/07/2007 6:55:02 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Moonman62
"That's exactly what astronomers see. This study has anomalies because of errors. That anomalies increase toward the edges of the field confirms it."

#1, astronomers don't see "dark matter." It doesn't even exist.

#2, the study has errors in it because it is based on a pre-conceived notion (e.g. "dark matter") that is itself in error.

Errors beget errors. No doubt some drug-addled grad student will be coerced to fabricate some silly new "model" that supposedly rectifies the errors visible in the map displayed with the article for this thread, however, as "dark matter" proponents are not going to quit lying (to themselves as much as to the public) anytime soon.

41 posted on 01/08/2007 11:37:13 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: RadioAstronomer
"Local spacetime is bound by gravity. There is enough mass in your average galaxy to create a gravity well that prevents expansion. Molecules are even more absurd."

Flamboyant, ridiculous supposition on your part. Shame on you.

You have no evidence, no proof, not even a *hint* that Gravity prevents the fabric of space, dimensions themselves, from expanding in local areas...yet you spout such rubbish as if it was fact. It's not.

Nor can you even show a Force that *is* causing Space to expand.

Shame. Shame. Shame on you.

42 posted on 01/08/2007 11:40:25 AM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: silverleaf

yes


43 posted on 01/08/2007 11:43:15 AM PST by commonguymd
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To: NormsRevenge

Or where Hillary!™'s heart is supposed to be.


44 posted on 01/08/2007 11:58:18 AM PST by null and void (Propaganda doesn't have to make sense. Hell, it often works better if it doesn't.)
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To: Southack

You really need to study GR and SR.

You have no idea what you are talking about.


45 posted on 01/08/2007 12:13:42 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Southack
the fabric of space, dimensions themselves

There are three dimensions

Time, people, and dinner.

46 posted on 01/08/2007 12:20:47 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: RadioAstronomer

Oh please. You're just posting cop outs.

The plain truth is that you made claims that you can't substantiate.

Can Gravity prevent Space from expanding as you claimed was fact?

We don't know.

Is there a Force that is causing Space to expand as you claimed?

We don't know.

I take issue with your hubris and arrogance, and your repeated posts to me that either *I* don't know something or that you don't have time for this or whatever just goes to show that you are out of your depths in this field, capable of little more than spouting politically correct rubbish.

Because if you are capable of more than spouting such PCisms, you would have shown the Force that you claim is expanding Space...and you would have shown the evidence that we have in hand that shows that Gravity prevents Space from expanding locally.

But you haven't.

And you can't.

Shame on you. None of what you've spouted so far is the least bit scientific.

None of it.

Show the Forces that you claim as fact. Show the evidence.


47 posted on 01/08/2007 12:47:41 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: All

For the lurkers on this thread, please keep in mind that Gravity is the **weakest** of all known forces.

There are dangerous know-nothings on this thread who would have you believe that the **weakest** of all Forces is capable of doing something that the strongest of Forces can not: expand Space.


48 posted on 01/08/2007 12:49:58 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: All

...or stop the expansion of Space.


49 posted on 01/08/2007 12:51:07 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: muawiyah
I've wondered that myself....only not that the matter was of "other universes" but rather, matter from our universe that was knocked slightly out of our reality by something like the Big Bang.....perhaps the first quarter of the matter of our universe was on the outer shell/fastest part of the explosion - moving so fast and under so much pressure that it moved slightly out of phase with the rest of the matter.

I've wondered too if dark matter could be the ejecta of black holes, similarly knocked our of phase by gravity.

I'd like to see the question of dark matter figured out before I die.

50 posted on 01/08/2007 1:06:29 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Southack
Utter nonsense. If "space" was expanding then molecules would be growing larger.

Um.....no. They wouldn't be.  They'd be expanding apart.

But, if they were growing larger, you'd wouldn't know it, and there'd probably be no way at all to see it happen.

 

51 posted on 01/08/2007 1:13:23 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: neverdem

It looks like what you get when Algore's low flow toilet backs up.


52 posted on 01/08/2007 2:00:54 PM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Please don't feed the Narcissist....

;-)

53 posted on 01/08/2007 2:33:13 PM PST by longshadow (FReeper #405, entering his tenth year of ignoring nitwits, nutcases, and recycled newbies)
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To: Southack
Surely you must have an understanding of the three components that are currently accepted as the standard model of the Universe?

You are missing one key factor that gives this theory it's feasibility.
54 posted on 01/08/2007 2:44:30 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (MAYNARD BLAZEJEWSKI For President '08 (The "true" conservative choice))
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To: Psycho_Bunny

The majority of folks on Earth actually believe you "com back" one way or the other ~ if they're correct it's likely the answer is going to be available for you someday.


55 posted on 01/08/2007 3:04:59 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Southack
There are dangerous know-nothings on this thread

Hmmmm...some with PhDs in physics. No nothings indeed. /sarc.

56 posted on 01/08/2007 3:09:08 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: longshadow

LOL!


57 posted on 01/08/2007 3:09:40 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: neverdem

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/07/sci_nat_enl_1168021092/html/1.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6235751.stm


Neat 3-D version


58 posted on 01/08/2007 3:12:42 PM PST by commonguymd
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To: Southack
If "space" was expanding then molecules would be growing larger.

If everything is relative that may be the case.

59 posted on 01/08/2007 3:30:03 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Except that is not the case.


60 posted on 01/08/2007 3:46:05 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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