Confederacy of the determined - (Southern heritage buffs vow "Confederate History Month")

WASHINGTON TIMES.COM ^ | APRIL 24, 2005 | Christina Bellantoni

[stand watie]

are you REALLY that STUPID & culturally ILLITERATE about the WBTS or are you just being a LITTLE TROLL????

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

MOST SCVers fly the THIRD NATIONAL.

only flying the S&B seems to be primarily a "UDC thing".

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

MOST PEOPLE north & south don't recognise the BB.

it's called IGNORANCE! thank the "gubmint pubic screwls".

free dixie,sw

[Mongeaux]

are you REALLY that STUPID & culturally ILLITERATE about the WBTS or are you just being a LITTLE TROLL????

Wow, lookit all the fun stuff you miss when you work night shift! I just woke up and I have to get off to my menial job so I can't play anymore till tonight.

Stand, I'm not a Troll. Check out my posts and you will see. I'm a rock-ribbed New Hampshire Republican from a long line of em. But thanks for asking, hope it clears that up for you.

Isn't it fun to have somebody to debate against now and then? Who else is going to take a provocative contrary position for y'all? The DUmmies? PLEASE! They can't frame a coherent argument, they're too full of vitriol and THC. I don't expect you to thank me for playing the Ugly Yankee so you could vent your spleen, but don't you feel better now?

Menial job beckons, gotta run!

[stand watie]

well at least you aren't a TROLL!

though you obviously know ZILCH about the truth about our war for LIBERTY, which was fought against the lincoln coven.

must be drinking too much of the REVISIONIST/LEFTIST damnyankee kool aide that caused your problem!

free dixie,sw

[stand watie]

"menial job beckons" ===> how very well i understand THAT.

work is the curse of the leisure class.

free dixie,sw

[Non-Sequitur]

bump

[BigCinBigD]

"The Politically Correct Northerners will never allow us to honor our war-dead"
Oh yes we can. As long as we don't honor politically correct Northerners. With our time and attention.

[Martin Tell]

I used to fly the Third National, it is after all the legal flag to fly. A neighbor asked my wife if it was a "Klan" flag. That freaked my wife out and she pleaded with me not to fly it again. The Bonnie Blue is a compromise in my house.

BTW, I recall seeing a Cherokee-Confederate flag in my book on Flags of the Confederacy. I think that would be a good one to fly. Unfortunately, I can only claim a bit more Cherokee blood than Ward Churchill.

Cheers,

MT

[Modernman]

About 5-6% of fighters on BOTH sides in the ACW were slave owners.

This old distortion? You neo-Confederates need to get some new statistics to lie about.

[fortheDeclaration]

Lets put this 'states rights' being a barrier to Federal tyranny to rest once and for all.

The States 'rights' advocates rejected the Declaration of Independence.

They did not believe that man had any God given rights.

A State tyranny is no better then a Federal one.

The protection against Federal tyranny is the right of revolution, which is the ultimate right based on the principles of the Declaration.

The only one who had a God given right to rebel were the slaves, since it was they who were being denied their freedoms, not the South.

As for secession itself, the states cannot vote to secede themselves out of the union.

The right of secession is a Southern myth.

[fortheDeclaration]

Oh, and the difference it was supposed to make was this: The Union did NOT go into the Civil War intent on freeing slaves. They went in with intent to punish the Confederates. Lincoln made it ABUNDANTLY clear that he had no intention of stopping slavery in the South (and parts of the North). THEN the war broke out. Abolishing slavery was meant as an economic "whose-your-daddy" rather than a "this is a great injustice that must be fixed!" The intention in the actions makes all the difference.

The only way intention is important is to keep the South's myth alive that they had some moral high ground.

Lincoln did intend to end slavery and that is what the Republican party ran on.

He intended to end it by limiting its growth.

The slave owners knew this and divided their own Democratic Party over the issue.

This view, that because Lincoln intended to uphold the Constitution, means that he did not intend to end slavery is simply more Southern myth making.

The goal of the South was to expand their 'peculiar' institution and they put slavery as a right in their Constitition, naming the negro race as those they intended to keep enslaved.

[fortheDeclaration]

And it was the South that went to war to keep slavery alive.

And who were these Yankee's selling the slaves to?

As for ripping children out of the hands of their mothers, it was the South who had slavery written into their Constitution as a permanent right, naming the Negro specifically.

To hear you guys tell the story, it was the South that was against slavery!

[TexConfederate1861]

"The States 'rights' advocates rejected the Declaration of Independence.They did not believe that man had any God given rights."


OK, let's see your sources. PROVE that States-Rights advocates believed as you say. I can't WAIT to see your proof. (If there is any, which I doubt)