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Marijuana Lobby Grows in Sophistication (After you smoke a joint, I do Too!)
FOX News ^ | Friday, January 28, 2005 | By Kelley Beaucar Vlahos

Posted on 02/01/2005 10:22:25 AM PST by .cnI redruM

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To: bigfootbob
"sick people who use it so they can keep the medications that battle cancer "

Really now.

"Oregon's medical marijuana program has a "very lax system of review and oversight," Magee said. "The law is riddled with loopholes for abuse." Qualifying conditions such as "severe pain" or "persistent muscle spasms" are so vague that they allow little rigorous control over misuse, he said."

More than 80 percent of the current cardholders cited severe pain on their applications. About 30 percent cited persistent muscle spasms, and 22 percent cited nausea. Applicants often give more than one medical reason."
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Cancer? Hello? Where's all the cancer patients? AIDS? Glaucoma?

Hmmmm. Pain ... muscle spasms ... nausea ... wait a minute. Doctors have to take the patient's word for those. Aha!

21 posted on 02/01/2005 10:39:44 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: .cnI redruM

I agree, I think it should be legalized. It would create a new market and at the same time drain the money of the Afgan warlords (that fund terror organizations by growing it and smuggling it into the US.) In my experience it's non habit forming, I usually go 4-6 months between using it. Also I don't recall ever hearing of someone getting so high and causing car accidents. And I've never heard the excuse "Yeah I had sex with that ugly fat guy/girl because I got too high."


22 posted on 02/01/2005 10:39:45 AM PST by Mcirrus (I disagree)
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To: Hu Gadarn
drug companies can't see a way to make a profit from something that can be grown naturally....

Why would anyone go to the trouble of growing and cultivating if bags were available at the liquor stores? I don't see too many stills around these days 'cuz it's easier to buy jack than to make it.

23 posted on 02/01/2005 10:39:52 AM PST by rhombus
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To: .cnI redruM

"Marijuana Lobby Grows in Sophistication"...

if they could just remember whom they lobbied last...


24 posted on 02/01/2005 10:39:58 AM PST by mikeus_maximus
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To: .cnI redruM
"It’s a no-brainer. It makes no sense putting old and sick folks in jail for an herb that makes them feel better," said Bruce Mirken, spokesman for the Marijuana Policy Project

Consistent with the disconnect from reality and rationality of dopers and their advocates.

There are no old and sick people in jail for using marijuana.

These guys are just like the liberals (well they are liberals) in their single minded obsession wherein a minor issue is put up as one of major importance.

The world revolves around them and their longing to get stoned.

25 posted on 02/01/2005 10:40:27 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: .cnI redruM

If someone wants to do that, I think it's their right as free individuals. They should also accept the consequences of their actions. Once the glamor of these substances being illegal is dispelled, people will be able to see them for what they are, good and bad.


26 posted on 02/01/2005 10:40:46 AM PST by thoughtomator (How do you say Berkeley California in Aramaic?)
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To: .cnI redruM

I think it would be good policy for Republicans to legalize marijuana...why do you think the so-called massive youth vote for Kerry evaporated on election day?


27 posted on 02/01/2005 10:41:10 AM PST by Caged in Canuckistan (A message from Canada: GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!)
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To: mikeus_maximus
"Marijuana Lobby Grows in Sophistication"...

if they could just remember whom they lobbied last...

That's so funny I forgot to laugh... I think anyway. Oh look, a bird...

28 posted on 02/01/2005 10:41:11 AM PST by rhombus
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
The medicinal angle is so disingenuous it's laughable.

If these guys had the brains or guts to argue for legalization on the merits, maybe somebody would listen to them.

Exactly.

And so many who freeload and parasite on FR are thier hallelujah chorus.

29 posted on 02/01/2005 10:41:28 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: .cnI redruM

Two extremely profitable industries that will resist change to the status quo are the current US tax system and the war on drugs.

Far too many laywers are making money off both to allow these cash cows to be taken from them.

Why do I single out lawyers?

Who make the laws in this country?


30 posted on 02/01/2005 10:42:05 AM PST by Dad2Angels
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To: Caged in Canuckistan

Because it was a fraud in the first place?


31 posted on 02/01/2005 10:43:17 AM PST by thoughtomator (How do you say Berkeley California in Aramaic?)
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To: thoughtomator

Heroin would be legal by your definition. Once somebody has used heroin more than once or twice, they are in no state to judge whether the stuff is bad or not.


32 posted on 02/01/2005 10:44:17 AM PST by .cnI redruM (The Iraqis voted. The insurgency lost. Tell the DU it's over.)
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To: robertpaulsen

Where is the power to criminalize the possession or digestion of an herb by the Federal Government enumerated in the Constitution?


33 posted on 02/01/2005 10:45:54 AM PST by PaxMacian
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To: .cnI redruM

If someone wants to kill themselves, the government shouldn't be taking money from you and me to try and prevent the inevitable. As you can see, prohibition isn't stopping anybody from doing heroin - it's actually encouraging heroin use, what with free government-provided needles and everything.


34 posted on 02/01/2005 10:46:33 AM PST by thoughtomator (How do you say Berkeley California in Aramaic?)
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To: TigersEye
"Nor is it making us safer to incarcerate people who smoke to relax and enjoy life."

We don't incarcerate people who smoke to relax and enjoy life.

We incarcerate people who knowingly and willingly break the law.

35 posted on 02/01/2005 10:47:01 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
You're baaaack with your tired argument. I'm still waiting for you to obtain a signed physician statement. You remember my challenge. Otherwise, shut up and try and to learn something.
36 posted on 02/01/2005 10:48:09 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: Dad2Angels
Most of these substances were legal at some point and then got banned. Take for example Coca-Cola. There was originally a reason it was called Coke. It had cocaine.

Heroin and morphine were used heavily by both sides in The Civil War as sedatives for injured soldiers. It was then that the country first had to start dealing with heroin and morphine junkies and didn't like the social costs.

There is a lot of history behind these laws that gets swept under the rug because of the popular appeal of recreational drug use.
37 posted on 02/01/2005 10:48:43 AM PST by .cnI redruM (The Iraqis voted. The insurgency lost. Tell the DU it's over.)
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To: tallhappy

"These guys are just like the liberals (well they are liberals) in their single minded obsession wherein a minor issue is put up as one of major importance."

I consider myself very conservative but I also smoke marjiuana on occasion but I guess that makes me a liberal now...


38 posted on 02/01/2005 10:50:41 AM PST by Mcirrus (I disagree)
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To: .cnI redruM

Ever hear about the barrels of LSD outside the dorm doors at Bizerkly years ago? True.


39 posted on 02/01/2005 10:50:56 AM PST by Hi Heels (Naked Mole Rats. Find them. Squish them. Feel the crunch.)
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To: thoughtomator

If they only killed themselves, I'd be enough of a callous prick to agree. Addicts to anything, Budweiser included, destroy their families, and pretty much wreck the lives of people all around them.


40 posted on 02/01/2005 10:51:02 AM PST by .cnI redruM (The Iraqis voted. The insurgency lost. Tell the DU it's over.)
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