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The Confederate battle flag:a racist symbol or proud history?
arbiter ^ | 20-Jan-2005 | Bill Ward

Posted on 01/20/2005 7:37:49 AM PST by stainlessbanner

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To: jtminton

We could start on Valentine's Day.


21 posted on 01/20/2005 7:52:07 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (When did I change my tagline? Is the tagline Gnome messing with me again?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

LOL! Sweet tea, cornbread, and good friends....does it get any better?!


22 posted on 01/20/2005 7:52:30 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: stainlessbanner
I find baseball caps with "X" on them to be racist, but I never went around demanding that the person wearing it to take it off. I find hip-hop/(C)rap music to be racist, but I don't threaten radio stations or sponsors with boycotts. I could go on...

Anyone who thinks the Confederate Flag is a racist symbol is in some serious need of history lessons. The "War Between the States" was about the rights of individual states, it was NOT a civil war about slavery. Abraham Lincoln made it one.

By the way, I like Neal Boortz' definition about civil wars being about two factions, both fighting to control one country. The War Between the States was about a group of individual states fighting to NOT be federally controlled. There is a big difference here.

23 posted on 01/20/2005 7:52:33 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: stainlessbanner

It's a flag. People making too much of this. There are more important things to worry about that are very real and in our faces.


24 posted on 01/20/2005 7:52:41 AM PST by cyborg
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To: stainlessbanner

Photos of the Klan-Nazi meetings show robed Klansmen and Nazis in storm-trooper uniforms giving the well know stiff-arm salute. The Klan had done that salute for years, and some think the American Nazi’s may have borrowed it and exported it to Germany.

Copied from the Romans?


25 posted on 01/20/2005 7:52:51 AM PST by dljordan
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To: no more apples

Can we count on your vote?


26 posted on 01/20/2005 7:53:23 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (When did I change my tagline? Is the tagline Gnome messing with me again?)
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To: stainlessbanner

"I always loved you"


27 posted on 01/20/2005 7:53:24 AM PST by dljordan
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To: stainlessbanner

I would have to say it symbolizes both. The right accepts the history of our nation and we are proud of it. There are some things that the nation participated in that were not right. We grew as a people because of our mistakes and we are better for them. We are also more civilized now and the nations of Europe were the catalyst for the Indian wars and slavery. The left and the Europeans seem to forget these facts. No nation has a clean record in the human rights department. To pretend they do is sophistry. Whether or not the world wants to acknowledge it, we lead the world in civil rights because of the spirit of freedom. Both the Union and the Confederacy are important parts of our history and there should be no shame in that.


28 posted on 01/20/2005 7:54:09 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: TommyDale
The "War Between the States" was about the rights of individual states, it was NOT a civil war about slavery. Abraham Lincoln made it one.

Yes he did, and he was right to do so. Slavery should not ever have been a states' rights issue and I'm damn glad it no longer is.

29 posted on 01/20/2005 7:54:32 AM PST by mcg1969
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To: RebelBanker

Alot of those folks live in the NW and mid-west. Scary stuff - most couldn't tell you boo about Southern/American history.


30 posted on 01/20/2005 7:54:49 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: TommyDale

Negro league baseball caps are a part of American history. Spike Lee ruined it though. Everyone associates the X with Malcolm X now.


31 posted on 01/20/2005 7:55:36 AM PST by cyborg
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To: stainlessbanner

If we add a little Wild Turkey to the tea itdontgitnobetterthanthis!


32 posted on 01/20/2005 7:56:40 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (When did I change my tagline? Is the tagline Gnome messing with me again?)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Absolutely!


33 posted on 01/20/2005 7:56:46 AM PST by no more apples (my give-a-damn's busted)
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To: stainlessbanner

By the way, I am not only a Yankee, but I qualify in the South as a DAMN YANKEE! I have a hobby collecting artifacts and pictures of The War Between the States, and have made it a point to read history that was conveniently omitted from the school systems in the North.


35 posted on 01/20/2005 7:59:11 AM PST by TommyDale
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To: no more apples; jtminton
Thanks. With your help it will be an easy victory. But enough about 2008.

Happy Inauguration Day!
36 posted on 01/20/2005 8:00:52 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (When did I change my tagline? Is the tagline Gnome messing with me again?)
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To: stainlessbanner

You make some good points, yet for many people the Confederate flag is a symbol of racism.

Today we have to be careful of a variety of seemingly innocent symbols, including Looney Toon characters and college mascots due to the gang rivalries in many cities.

Many public schools are returning to strict dress codes because of the underlying symbolism that these characters represent.

You also mention that the Nazi party requested parade permits in Skokie, but were denied. With good reason, the majority of citizens in that suburb were Jewish. This parade was only to incite a riot.


37 posted on 01/20/2005 8:02:46 AM PST by senorita (A real American native)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Valentine's day sounds good. Probably won't be the best fundraising day, though.


38 posted on 01/20/2005 8:06:14 AM PST by jtminton (<><)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Happy back at you!


39 posted on 01/20/2005 8:08:25 AM PST by no more apples (my give-a-damn's busted)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ

I never said I disagree with you.


40 posted on 01/20/2005 8:10:18 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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