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DEFAMATION -- LIBEL AND SLANDER [Florida Law - FReepers Heed]
Florida Bar Association ^

Posted on 10/24/2003 10:14:40 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine

Edited on 10/24/2003 12:02:17 PM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Patrick Henry is the kind of nutcase who can get us tossed in the pokey for civil disobedience.
 
How dare we question the motives of someone who's living with another woman while working to end the life of his wife - with the help of a Judge who gave this caring husband permission to cremate his wife upon her death after sealing medical records and disallowing video that proved Terri is not in a PVS, after sentencing an innocent, disabled woman to death  - more than once - without ever bothering to meet her in person.
 
 How terrible of us.
 
''A patriot was one who stood with his country because his country stood for
right. But should his country turn toward the wrong, then a patriot must
stand against his country. A true patriot as well as a genuine leader must
always take the higher ground of God's law when confronted with the evils of
man's law. ... Government is not the enemy, for it is ordained of God. The
enemy to freedom is tyrannical government that presumes to take the place of
God." ~ Patrick Henry

921 posted on 10/24/2003 4:11:38 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("2 years: tyrannies defeated,nations rescued,millions of people liberated" Rummy,10/10-AP:"FAILURE!")
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To: honeygrl; Neets
Whoever hit abuse on him for calling me a bimbo should've left it there so the world could see how silly he sounds.

I suspect habs4ever hit abuse on himself. He doesn't want to get in trouble with the Free Republic tea threads. Calling women -- good women like yourself -- a bimbo is no way to win friends over there. :o)

Nonetheless, I saw it. You saw it. Many people saw it.

Neets, I know you like the fellow, but he is really mean for no good reason to LOTS and LOTS of freepers. Double-check your feelings on him. Just cuz he's nice to you doesn't mean he's nice.

922 posted on 10/24/2003 4:11:41 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: dogbyte12
However, I still think it is important and relevant to know if Chancy is OPH.

Why?

Until he honestly accounts for himself, I believe this thread is a pernicious effort to curtail anonymous speech, done anonymously, through possibly a second pseudonym.

How does posting an explanation of the libel laws serve to curtail speech, save possibly for curtailing libelous speech?

923 posted on 10/24/2003 4:12:00 PM PDT by general_re ("I am Torgo. I take care of the place while the Master is away.")
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
If people didn't have to be so careful with their speech, then why is it that journalists in print and on television always used the words "alleged" when talking about a victim or a suspect?

Except in the case of Rush Limbaugh of course. Dan Rather blatantly said he was buying drugs illegally, no alleged at all.

924 posted on 10/24/2003 4:13:24 PM PDT by ladyinred (Talk about a revolution, look at California!!! We dumped Davis!!!)
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To: harrowup
Many believe, including me, that CP was also known as One_Particular_Harbour, a particularly odious poster whose testosterone level seemed to be out of whack.

Well, now it's clearer.

Is is his testosterone level that you object to? Perhaps I was wrong in my observation you were paranoid and obsessed. Now I see it's a case of you needing some Viagra.

925 posted on 10/24/2003 4:13:56 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
No offense, it's just that I know you're not associated with the FRN (unless in a chapter) and don't think I've seen your name associated with anything to do with Jim and FR, LLC. I was wondering why they were pelting you with questions you couldn't possibly be in a position to answer. Sorry.
926 posted on 10/24/2003 4:14:13 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: TexConfederate1861
I heard tale that when Judge Roy Bean was dispensing justice out your way judgements were worth at least a bullet, if not a rope.
927 posted on 10/24/2003 4:14:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: ladyinred
No need to have it be alleged, Rush admitted to it, right?
928 posted on 10/24/2003 4:14:49 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (You may forget the one with whom you have laughed, but never the one with whom you have wept.)
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To: Bob J
I will keep FR network out of it, since OPH isn't working for that entity now.

I still though respectfully believe that CP being OPH is an issue here, considering the potential impact his attempt here to silence critics might have on the Forum. I will not type CP and FRN in the same sentence again after this, but unless told otherwise, I do believe that OPH being CP and trying to stifle speech through this thread is fair game.

929 posted on 10/24/2003 4:14:55 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: dogbyte12
...do you understand why somebody posting a thinly veiled legal threat

Threat? What threat? A post about defamation/libel/slander as the law applies in Florida? What's so threatening about it? I certainly don't feel threatened by it.

930 posted on 10/24/2003 4:15:16 PM PDT by wimpycat
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To: Neets
It is important because if Chancellor Palpatine was OPH it means he is being protected.

I don't care why he would be protected. I just want to know when I'm talking to a blowhard like CP that a mere whack up the side the head will not get his attention...and it is pretty clear from his silence that he knows how to duck.

We know there are some protected species and that is ok. We all have batty old aunts in the attic like Deb and Howlin...but, they do not claim to be lawyers. and having lost an argument give a lecture on defamation.

931 posted on 10/24/2003 4:16:37 PM PDT by harrowup (So perfect I'm naturally humble)
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To: harrowup
You know you can traipse right over to you know where and you will find out...all the dirty rumours and innuendo and speculation...it's all there.
932 posted on 10/24/2003 4:16:48 PM PDT by Neets (<---posting as chopped liver yet again.)
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To: Bob J
I was wondering why they were pelting you with questions you couldn't possibly be in a position to answer. Sorry.

You got me, too--and no apology necessary. I thought your (phrasing) was funny myself.

Keep up the good work, Bob J.

933 posted on 10/24/2003 4:16:57 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: wimpycat
I am not a lawyer, and I don't play one on television, but I believe that the amount of times Internet message board posters have been sued under Florida law by individuals for libel is quite minute, shall we say?

So what was the point of putting this up? Chancy was just trying to give his opponent a heads up because he was so concerned about their welfare? Perhaps. Perhaps not.

934 posted on 10/24/2003 4:17:11 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: dogbyte12
I disagree with the pulling of the thread. OPH put it up, and his "opinion" and standing for it has been challenged quite openly.

Why remove that. I thought that is what this site was all about. Challenging ourselves and our positions. I say let her run her course!

Maybe OPH is at this moment hard at work writting a rebuttal to the questions sent his way. Or perhaps he is at the bar chasing skirts. Either way, he posted it let him defend it.

There are questions and answers to those questions on this thread that have been asked in other areas and incinuated for months. Let them see the light of day.
Nothing like a good airing of the truth answer the questions of distrust.

Thats my opinion FWIW.
935 posted on 10/24/2003 4:17:23 PM PDT by Area51 (RINO hunter!)
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To: honeygrl
rofl! the usual price?

20 bucks, same as in town.

936 posted on 10/24/2003 4:17:33 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: harrowup
We all have batty old aunts in the attic like Deb and Howlin...

Was that really necessary???

937 posted on 10/24/2003 4:17:39 PM PDT by Neets (<---posting as chopped liver yet again.)
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To: harrowup
At the risk of having you yap at my ankles too, I would just point out that it's Friday. Put your feet up, read a good book, do the crossword, have a beer, watch Everybody Loves Raymond.
938 posted on 10/24/2003 4:18:04 PM PDT by jjbrouwer
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To: wimpycat
I find it hilarious that a lawyer would post anything in an attempt to admonish others to be careful as regards to "the law". Lawyers seem to be very adept at subverting, twisting and bending "the law" to suit their own purposes.

What I wonder is, what's the real reason for posting the code?

Nope.....I don't trust barristers.

Not even with my neighbor's sheep.

939 posted on 10/24/2003 4:18:30 PM PDT by Thumper1960
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To: harrowup; Jim Robinson
Why? It's an internet web site. What does it matter in the big picture? So people here flame and post comments that offend. Big deal, suck it up an move on. I'm offended daily by liberals, and that's what I care about. Our country, and the fact that for the last 50 some odd years they are trying their damnedest to make us live under socialist rule.

Isn't that our goal? To make liberals irrevelant? Let's go after the democrats and liberals that are trashing our country, not each other.
940 posted on 10/24/2003 4:18:54 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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