Posted on 05/04/2024 7:00:50 PM PDT by DoodleBob
Russian army was several thousand miles away. Would have been months before they could have had any effect.
Stupid, perverse old liberal talking point.
Farm labor was increasingly scarce, but getting food to the cities was becoming impossible, because of American bombing.
Tough start….father died when I was 5……….wonderful mother who raised us …….I married and had five kids who are so good to me today . I have been blessed by God .
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The bombs saved half a million American lives.
Death rate of American pows were astounding.
Even left wing Time says so.
The American POWs Still Waiting for an Apology From Japan 70 Years Later
https://time.com/3334677/pow-world-war-two-usa-japan/
40% death rate.
We also have nothing to apologize for the internment camps. Japanese’s believed in Shintoism and that their Emperor was godson Earth.
A better question is do we have what it takes to win any war today? Judging by our tuck rail and run exit from Afghanistan and China owner our current Resident in Thief …. I doubt it.
Today’s world, “we should ask about their concerns and feelings and ask them, with fervor, to be nicer to us and not go bombing and destroying our boats.”
In a perfect world Japan would have seen the error of their ways and not spend 60 year rampaging over the east killing around sixteen million civilians. Or we could have worked things out with hugs. We do not live in a perfect world.
We live in a world where the Japanese solders had contests to see who could chop off the most civilian heads in a certain time span.
We had a world where of the millions of Chinese POWs captured only 56 survived the war. Not 56 thousand. Not 56 hundred. 56.
We had a world where the Japanese forced civilian females into brothels.
We had a world where the Japanese soldiers would pour liquid nitrogen on living POWs and civilians and break their limbs off. And that was the least nightmarish of the medical torture.
I will not mention the cannibalism because that was not the official government policy. The rest of what I listed was approved by the Japanese government.
Imperial Japan was a horror show that refused to stop.
When we had offered terms earlier in 1945 they took it as a sign of weakness and doubled down.
I have lived in Japan, I like the Japanese people and culture, but from the 1880s through 1945 they went stark staring bonkers. They shocked and horrified the Nazis.
They had to be stopped and honestly I do not think anything less would have worked. They thought that they could hold out until they could unleash on the world their weaponize version of the Yersinia pestis on the world. That was planned for fall of 1945. They figured they could hold out until that point. Until they lost two cities in a week.
Even some of the college students wanted to kill Hirohito in a coup before the surrender..It’s on yutube
Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Kokura (primary target for Fat Man) were legitimate military targets.
You win the thread! Excellent argument
Another reason Japan surrendered- the Soviet Union declared war on Japan. The Japanese were terrified of the Soviets and didn’t want them as an occupying force on Japan.
I think this, instead of the A Bombs, prompted Japan to surrender
It was necessary to take the war to the civilians in Japan as they were the ones providing the support, and fueling their country to fight on. We did that by dropping the bombs.
its the same with Islamist’s today but they wont quit till Allah tells them too.
Is Carlson actually saying it was evil?
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They made the decision to ignore our threat and to take their chances. As conquers, we were also very lenient in the aftermath as well. That's one of the reasons they has very good relations with us in the post war period.
I've never heard that, and can't find anything about it with a casual internet search. Do you have a reference? Genuinely curious...
Soviet Stalin Russia was ready to step in and seize Sakahlin Islands and others in so called dispute since the days of the invasion of Port Arthur by Japan.
They waited to the last days when Sorge their spy in Japan let them know they were going to capitulate (even so, there are some who have speculated the military coup that failed to prevent Hirohito from directly surrendering, had suspicious backing. Most do not and think it was Tojo’s last gasp). Either way the country was preparing for complete national suicide to fight an invasion— that would have cost them 2 million civilian lives and nearly a million Allied lives (UK,US,ANZACS,etc.). The bombs 2 of them was almost not enough— but prevented these losses. The Jap Navy knew it was over long before- but the Army fanatics would not let go.
Russia was marching toward Japan.
I’m alive because of the way events played out. No bomb and my father is sent to either blockade or invade Japan. The course of his future family is changed forever. I’m sorry that it happened the way it happened but I’m happy I was born.
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