Posted on 02/03/2024 4:29:47 PM PST by Bonemaker
Record companies owned it all. Artists signed and suffered.
Thank you for taking the time to explain what happened with the John F. Kennedy Jr. airplane disaster. I do think he would have won the presidency and handed the Marxist agenda to the DemonKKKrats.
Yikes 😳
Yes… It was a remarkable stroke of luck for Satan’s mistress—I mean Hillary Clinton, wasn’t it?
Balderdash! The kid could have simply looked around as he walked to the plane. He crashed only 7 miles from the airport. He was simply too inexperienced to fly an airplane at night in a snowstorm. As soon as he was airborne, he couldn't see the ground and lost control. It only takes seconds when you're not instrument rated.
“The Guy” was Waylon Jennings. He’s said he has regretted it his whole life.
To all.
It’s not that the Bonanza and follow on models are “bad” planes..they are superb.,it’s that they are “hot” and need very competent experienced pilots at the controls. Original Bonanzas were known as “Cadillacs of the skies” and also “doctor killers”. Check out Scott Perdue on his Flywire youtube channel. A pilot’s pilot. Retired Air Force fighter pilot and retired American Airlines captain.Huge Beechcraft fan but very cautionary to general aviatiion ebthusiasts.
I’ll take a wild guess and say...GRAVITY.
I read the printout as I did my Nebulizer treatment this morning. I found it all very interesting - how the musicians got their names, age of pilot AND how Ritchie and others got their names. Some of it followed the movie that was made years ago - tossing the coin to see who would get on the plane etc. I had to google where the plane left from. Goodness - what a disaster and so UNNECESSARY!! Hard to believe that the owner of the plane could see it at the distance he did in that soup and recognized what was happening.
We lost a good friend in June 1995 when he left Long Beach, CA for Mammoth in bad weather - after waiting hours for it to clear and it never did but he left anyway. My husband and other general aviation pilots were grounded that day by June gloom....Was flying IFR - not instrument - “I Follow Roads” type flying for whatever reason..he was instrument rated but in his haste maybe didn’t file for IFR. He could see the road out of his left window but when the road turned, he was essentially flying blind. Trying to see/find it, he ran into a mountain..It was easy to understand from the Sectional Chart of the area and see exactly what happened. He was alone and it was a Cessna 210 as I recall. The wreckage was in a campground on the mountain.
He was a ground school instructor at the company where I worked and he sat in my office that morning visiting and waiting for the WX to clear. He wanted to get to Mammoth to join others for the weekend - at the home of the pilot whose airplane he used. They were waiting for him.
In all cases - when your gut tells you “don’t do it” - don’t do it!!!
“”I flew it IFR even though it was VFR weather.””
My husband did the same occasionally - his parents retired to the Mojave high desert - and we would fly out for weekends and holidays. We left from a small dirt strip if we hadn’t used the road (as we did once in awhile) and without any reference at night, he took off from there IFR. We had my parents visiting from PA on one of those trips and that scared them. “You can’t see” - my mother, his mother in law!! LOL
Even instrument rated, we too waited the WX out in some northern CA cities before heading home to Southern CA - no desire to encourage icing!
Think safe - stay safe...it’s the only way.
“”Air traffic controllers gave 21-year-old pilot Roger Peterson weather reports several times from 5:30 p.m. until takeoff. The pilot had been flying for about five years as a contract commercial pilot and flight instructor for the company that owned the plane, headed by Hubert Dwyer.””
“”It’s also a bit cynical to brand a pilot as “inexperienced” when he’s already earned his commercial ticket.””
THAT certainly doesn’t make any sense - the pilot was 21 - with years of experience as a commercial pilot? Started when he was 16, huh? As someone else posted - Balderdash!
Reality could be determined by the number of hours he had logged - flight instructor and commercial rated WITHOUT an instrument rating?
yea...he was ejected about 100 feet from the wreck itself...Valens and Holly were right outside the plane. Awful way to go...
“VFR on top was not an option.”
Which is why I said he took off after midnight (dark) and with blowing snow (obstruction).
He was not rated to fly in those conditions.
If I remember correctly, that was also the cause of the Stevie Ray Vaughan helicopter crash into the side of a mountain.
See, I didn’t skip Science Class after all.
That’s exactly what I remember seeing
Thanks for confirming
As someone said, the pilot must have still been in the wreckage
Yikes 😳😳😳
IIRC SRV’s helicopter hit wires
Either support wires or lines
Oh you told me about pilot in your previous post
Oops 😬
Stevie Ray Vaughan is dead, and we can’t get Jon Bon Jovi in a helicopter? Come on, folks. “Get on that helicopter, Jon. Shut up and get on that helicopter! There’s a hair dresser in there. Yeah, go ahead in there, yeah yeah.”
-Dennis Leary
Oh my.....
I suddenly want a banana 🍌 broccoli 🥦 shake and to sing the “I’m an Oscar Meyer weiner” commercial
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