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Experts reveal what caused Buddy Holly’s plane to crash 65 years ago today
Nypost.com ^ | 02/03/2024 | Hillary Andrews

Posted on 02/03/2024 4:29:47 PM PST by Bonemaker

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To: reasonisfaith

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41 posted on 02/03/2024 7:44:28 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

You just quoted Hellery


42 posted on 02/03/2024 7:46:59 PM PST by Osage Orange (I miss Rush)
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To: Bonemaker

Now, what is the true cause of the John F. Kennedy Jr. plane crash?


43 posted on 02/03/2024 7:52:39 PM PST by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Bonemaker

“The Beechcraft line of private airplanes have been death traps”

I learned in a Beechcraft Skipper and there was nothing “death trap” about it.


44 posted on 02/03/2024 7:53:36 PM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: Bonemaker

It took 65 years to discover the pilot wasn’t instrument rated? Why?


45 posted on 02/03/2024 8:01:38 PM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: gunnut
>>The guy that jokingly said, I hope your plane crashes has had to live with that all these years. Would not want that on me.<<

That was Waylon Jennings.

46 posted on 02/03/2024 8:18:42 PM PST by Smittie (Just like an alien I'm a stranger in a strange land)
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To: Thank You Rush

You’re welcome. I ran across it a couple days ago. As a musician myself, I have been curious about the conditions of their demise. It is an interesting read, not groundbreaking by any means, but a clear and concise rendering of the events.


47 posted on 02/03/2024 8:19:36 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Bonemaker

Somebody found Buddy Holly’s glasses in the field years later.


48 posted on 02/03/2024 8:26:45 PM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest )
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To: PLMerite

Buddy Holly Museum in Lubbock is amazing.


49 posted on 02/03/2024 8:28:40 PM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI)
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To: Bonemaker
Three Stars--Tommy Dee with Carol Kay & the Teen-Aires (1959)
50 posted on 02/03/2024 8:36:29 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: jonrick46

“Now, what is the true cause of the John F. Kennedy Jr. plane crash?”

Flying at night over water in VFR weather, no moonlight, and some haze. Although legal VFR that is really IFR flying as you easily lose what you visually think is the horizon. He was not IFR rated. That is what caused the crash.

I have flown at night over open water (Gulf of Mexico) with no moon. I flew it IFR even though it was VFR weather. This same thing can happen out West at night. There are few towns and they are just pinpricks of light and give one no reference to what is the horizon. Out West are hard objects in the night. They are called mountains.

When considering a flight into inclement weather if you are contemplating a “go no go decision” don’t go least your are certain of your skills, the weather, and your aircraft. Case in point, 44 years ago I spent two days in a motel in Junction, Texas before I was IFR rated. Low ceilings over the Hill Country. It was a definite, no go for my skills at the time.


51 posted on 02/03/2024 8:54:10 PM PST by cpdiii (cane cutter-deckhand-oilfield roughneck-drilling fluiids tech-geologist-pilot-instructor-pharmacist)
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To: SaveFerris

its was just a ball of twisted metal...and the pilot was trapped in there somewhere...couldnt see a trace of him....ugh.


52 posted on 02/03/2024 9:12:34 PM PST by basalt (qb's)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

exact same plane Randy Rhoads, Ozzy guitarist, died in....


53 posted on 02/03/2024 9:14:37 PM PST by basalt (qb's)
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To: Bonemaker
This hasn't been news since 1959. It's always been believed that the cause was pilot disorientation.


"Investigators point to quickly-changing wintry weather conditions that were not communicated to the inexperienced pilot as the cause of the crash that left such a tragic mark on music history."

Completely irrelevant. It is the responsibility of the Pilot-in-Command to learn everything pertinent to the safe execution of his flight, especially weather.

It's also a bit cynical to brand a pilot as "inexperienced" when he's already earned his commercial ticket.

54 posted on 02/03/2024 9:26:16 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: P-Marlowe

... and Bob Hoover, Gabby Gabreski, Ilmari Juutilainen, Eric Brown, ....


55 posted on 02/03/2024 9:37:39 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: jonrick46
"Now, what is the true cause of the John F. Kennedy Jr. plane crash?"

Now? Same as it was back then. Here's the report: https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/ntsbreport2.pdf

56 posted on 02/03/2024 9:47:38 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: Bonemaker
"...The Beechcraft line of private airplanes have been death traps...."

Horse puckey. What the hell do you think the FAA does for a living, hold bake sales?

The only stain on Beech's record (if you can call it that) was the Bonanza V-35, the forked-tail doctor killer. And there was nothing wrong with the V-35 except there were too many people buying them whose meager flying skills couldn't balance against their outsized wallets and egos.

57 posted on 02/03/2024 10:02:07 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: basalt

And the three others were out in the snow

One went over the fence

Big Bopper I think


58 posted on 02/03/2024 10:04:12 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

Due to the winter conditions, the field was like concrete. I read their autopsies and wish I didn’t. Just think of the results of a fall off a tall building for all of them.


59 posted on 02/03/2024 10:10:38 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes” - Possibly Mark Twain.)
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To: citizen

Gravity: It’s not just a good idea, it’s the law.


60 posted on 02/03/2024 10:31:22 PM PST by Ignatz (Winner of a prestigious 1960 Y-chromosome award!)
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