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STUBBED OUT Smoking will be banned in plan to stop next generation buying fags, Charles confirms in King’s Speech
Sun - UK ^ | Noa Hoffman Published: 6:41 ET, Nov 7 2023Updated: 11:31 ET, Nov 7 2023

Posted on 11/07/2023 12:10:39 PM PST by Red Badger

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To: econjack

Human evil will never allow government to stay limited. A fundamentally predatory, destructive, conquering species cannot stay limited in power structures i.e. government. I know rhe political and economic theory of limited government, and like Communism or socialism, it simply cannot survive in the long run. Proof - American and European history circa 1700 to present.


101 posted on 11/08/2023 7:50:00 AM PST by libertarian66
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To: Red Badger
Smoking causes lung cancer but faggotry causes AIDS and liberalism causes destruction. If you're going to go after smokers, why not go after the others?
102 posted on 11/08/2023 7:52:06 AM PST by liberalh8ter ( Ephesians 6:10 - 18)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I outlined what are legitimate functions of the gov’t. I did not judge how well they are doing w/r to those functions. You don’t need to overhaul the Constitution. A Republic can only survive with an informed voting public, which we do not have. People know leaders are corrupt and doing a horrible job of running the gov’t, but they continue to put the same people back in office. An ill-informed voting body gets what they voted for, and the US is ill-informed on what its representatives are doing.


103 posted on 11/08/2023 7:53:39 AM PST by econjack
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To: econjack

Bedtime reading for you:

https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/spooner-no-treason-no-vi-the-constitution-of-no-authority-1870

The “legitimacy” of any government is the same as the “legitimacy” of a mugger who points a gun at your head.

Everything else is talk, talk, talk....


104 posted on 11/08/2023 7:58:48 AM PST by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: liberalh8ter

“Smoking causes lung cancer but faggotry causes AIDS and liberalism causes destruction.”

You are using different definitions for “causes”.

The third statement is factually accurate by any definition.

The first two statements are statistical—that means they apply to some people and not others.

My grandmother smoked one cigarette every day after dinner—and lived to be 106—and never had lung cancer.


105 posted on 11/08/2023 8:04:27 AM PST by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: libertarian66
I disagree with your hopeless view. People vote on the basis of what politicians can "give" them. They are seduced by everything from subsidized rents to free cell phones. I guess it's human nature to grab what you can for yourself rather than consider the alternatives that might exist if you thought about society rather than yourself.

I often wonder what would happen if the President held a press conference and announced an Executive Order that said:

Starting tomorrow, all budgets are cut by 10%. I expect each agency to continue to provide the same or better service than before the cut. If you cannot do so, I will find someone to replace you who can. Have a nice day."

I believe there is more than 10% slop in the budget and gov't could be more efficient if they had to be so. As it is, there is no penalty to spending other peoples' money inefficiently and, until they are held accountable by an informed electorate, the status quo will not change.

106 posted on 11/08/2023 8:05:07 AM PST by econjack
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To: ClearCase_guy

How much more clear do you want?

If the constitution doesn’t say anything about such-and-such; it is left to the states.


107 posted on 11/08/2023 11:13:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: econjack
... I guess it's human nature to grab what you can for yourself...

Tocqueville said it long ago:



108 posted on 11/08/2023 11:19:45 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: econjack; libertarian66

This is what God says about government:

“1Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities.
For there is no authority except from God,
and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.

2Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God,
and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.

3For rulers are not a terror to good works,
but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority?
Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same.

4For he is God’s minister to you for good.
But if you do evil, be afraid;
for he does not bear the sword in vain;
for he is God’s minister,
an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.

5Therefore you must be subject,
not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake.

6For because of this you also pay taxes,
for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing.

7Render therefore to all their due:
taxes to whom taxes are due,
customs to whom customs,
fear to whom fear,
honor to whom honor.

NKJV


109 posted on 11/09/2023 2:23:35 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: econjack

Tha’s why libertarianism was the answer. No handouts and taxation at near-zero level. It’s better people die of starvation than man loses his liberty. We have this strange idea that “everyone should make it” - evolution says otherwise. The weak MUST be eliminated by a free market or the entire society is doomed.

There is no right to life except at your own expense. The Social Darwinists were correct, and the welfare state - based on Christian charity - has doomed us all. Altruism is the greatest evil, Im shocked how prescient Ayn Rand was.


110 posted on 11/10/2023 6:15:12 AM PST by libertarian66
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To: Red Badger

We should outlaw fags here too.


111 posted on 11/10/2023 6:16:45 AM PST by dforest
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