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The MOST precisely made granite object of Ancient Egypt - and why it's NOT geopolymer!
You Tube Uncharted X ^ | Jan 10, 2021 | Ben

Posted on 05/29/2022 6:52:53 AM PDT by bert

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To: Wuli
"Could it be a difference, and missing a trained ability to distiguish how to sqaure the difference, between carving something in three dimensions and making a three dimensional representation in two dimensions - sometimes referred to as being able to draw “perspective” in art."

I just don't know if "realism" was what the Egyptians were trying to achieve in their surviving paintings, or if they had other goals in mind. A lot of the paintings I have seen were from tombs and temples and I suspect they were for religious/ceremonial purposes - they weren't trying to make something look real for aesthetic reasons, they were fulfilling a specific purpose. But I'm just guessing.

41 posted on 05/29/2022 9:58:28 AM PDT by Flag_This
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To: bert

Egyptians were not “primitive” as described by this guy. The box was made by skilled craftsmen using similar techniques for squaring, plumbing, and flattening used in my machine shop.

But most likely ALIENS.


42 posted on 05/29/2022 10:21:50 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: TalBlack

What’s interesting is they were able to do things that just aren’t possible without more modern tools, that Egyptologists claim weren’t available to them. The problem is this would upend a lot of the history. So they just kind of ignore it. This in turn, allows for a lot of wacky speculation, because of the vacuum on the subject.

A guy named Flinders Petrie documented a lot of his finds. He discovered some granite core samples made with tube drills and noticed some interesting characteristics based on the cuts observed, he estimated a feed rate of 1 in 60 or about .100” cut into granite per revolution of the tube, which he found astonishing and probably not possible at that time (1890s)

What’s weird about the big granite boxes is they are made from a single piece, often 20 or 30 tons, 90 degree precision internal cuts and polished and then transported from hundreds of miles away. Nobody does this today, even if they could, it’s always done in separate pieces.


43 posted on 05/29/2022 10:22:46 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: pepsionice

People can discover things on their own. Just because these masons were half a world away doesn’t mean they were incapable of creating their own techniques.


44 posted on 05/29/2022 10:24:39 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: bert

Egyptology ping


45 posted on 05/29/2022 10:44:50 AM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: Wuli

Gobegli tepe pushes back the dates for megalithic stone work to roughly 9000 bc


46 posted on 05/29/2022 10:47:15 AM PDT by ckilmer (qui)
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To: Wuli

Gobegli tepe pushes back the dates for megalithic stone work to roughly 9000 bc


47 posted on 05/29/2022 10:47:16 AM PDT by ckilmer (qui)
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To: ckilmer

“Gobegli tepe pushes back the dates for megalithic stone work to roughly 9000 bc”

Yes, and unlike Egypt but more like examples we have in South America, little no “writing” by the builders to be deciphered, and thus so little we have for learning about just who the builders were.

My own view of Machu Pichu is that the Inca, whose empire was not terribly old when the Spanish arrived, inherited and used the complex but did not build it.

With many such civilizations their “measuring” instruments perished with them.


48 posted on 05/29/2022 11:06:03 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Empire_of_Liberty; Vermont Lt

Part of the video involves pounded in glyphs.

Close examination reveals that the etchings found elsewhere were probably made at a later date and not by those who made the box. The quality of the etching workmanship is of much lower order than the box.

I may be straying into the scope of a separate video for this observation


49 posted on 05/29/2022 11:14:04 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: gnarledmaw
Thats true except that those who claim to know cant do it either. They can not replicate any of the cutting or drilling using tools known to have been in possession of the Egyptians. Those who have tried have all failed quite miserably including a few who later claimed victory.

Like craftsmen for millenia the ancients learned how to do this from someone who had done it for a lifetime. It took decades of work and practice to become a master. We could replicate this if we put in that kind of time and learning.

50 posted on 05/29/2022 11:14:44 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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Looks pretty human to me. Not quite Michelangelo, but not 3rd grade either. I don't expect their drawings to last too well after 4,000 years.
51 posted on 05/29/2022 11:16:57 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("It's one thing if it's a minor incursion" - Joe Biden)
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To: Flag_This

Another sculpture and possibly the one you depict indicate [erfect bilateral symmetry. That one side of the nose, lips and cheeks is precisely repeated in the other side.

This perfect symmetry can be accomplished by CNC machines but not human hands. And yet....... there it is , over and over.


52 posted on 05/29/2022 11:19:06 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: DouglasKC

Exactly!
I get really tired of people who don’t give ancient people the credit they deserve. Claiming the “ancient wonder” or “activity” was done by aliens or something else nonhuman is an insult to the ingenuity of the human race be they ancient or not!


53 posted on 05/29/2022 11:19:19 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Rurudyne

This theoretical solution of copper saws and abrasive have been debunked. While proven possible given the location of many saw cuts, copper saws are just considered not feasible.

In the numerous saw cut examples and especially in the quarries, there are large radiused circular saw marks in the stones. Some sort of circular saw was apparently used. There are lots and lots of the circular saw marks


54 posted on 05/29/2022 11:24:57 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: Rurudyne

Actually, we don’t know.

Academics writing papers have made the claim about copper saws and they have made videos of the process working. They have not however actually made any thing

The same is true of tube drills. Today in my former shop, there are slotted brass tubes used with water and carbide grit to drill precise large diameter holes in glass.


55 posted on 05/29/2022 11:32:17 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: bert
"Another sculpture and possibly the one you depict indicate [erfect bilateral symmetry. That one side of the nose, lips and cheeks is precisely repeated in the other side."

I think it was Christopher Dunn who demonstrated that on several sphinxes at Luxor.

56 posted on 05/29/2022 11:55:34 AM PDT by Flag_This
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To: Freedom4US

Of interest here is the reaction of certain academics to the thought that the tool marks on a core were spiral as Petrie said. In a photo in a paper on the subject discounting Petrie, the writer actually tilted the core slightly so the marks appeared parallel rather than spiral.

When the doctored photo is placed side by side with the actual core, the discrepancy is obvious.


57 posted on 05/29/2022 12:02:57 PM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: gnarledmaw
Thats true except that those who claim to know cant do it either. They can not replicate any of the cutting or drilling using tools known to have been in possession of the Egyptians. Those who have tried have all failed quite miserably including a few who later claimed victory.

Worn lathe beds are brought back into high tolerance with a hand file. So, we shouldn't be quick to dismiss what ancients could do with their own hand tools.

58 posted on 05/29/2022 12:19:29 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Dr. Sivana

The paintings are clearly visible. They show people facing full-profile left and full-profile right with their arms and legs in stiff stick-figure positions. These will be on the walls of a tomb that has your statue in it, for instance.

So, they could do both and somehow did not feel compelled to do more with the painting. As I said, I believe they had the same minds we do.

I would like to see the signing of the Declaration of Independence on the back of the 2-dollar bill done in the style of the Egyptians.


59 posted on 05/29/2022 12:47:28 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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60 posted on 05/29/2022 1:06:34 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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