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Texas Gov. Abbott has tested positive for COVID-19
Insider Paper ^ | 08/17/21 | Brendan Taylor

Posted on 08/17/2021 3:15:50 PM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: 2aProtectsTheRest

Filling up trucks? 24422 new cases and 96 deaths. Less than 1 in 244 cases statewide.

https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83


81 posted on 08/17/2021 5:39:41 PM PDT by zek157
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To: Quickgun

My employer has stated that the vax is the only way to prevent the spread of Covid-19 and protect your loved ones.

I’m still holding out for Novavax


82 posted on 08/17/2021 5:41:47 PM PDT by Jaded (Pope Francis? Definitely NOT a fan... miss the last guy )
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To: Enlightened1

I read that in Israel 75% of the new cases are from people who have been vaccinated. In other words, the vaccines don’t work against the new variant.


83 posted on 08/17/2021 5:46:08 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem by far is that most of the news media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: 1riot1ranger
maybe another false positive. still counts to bump the numbers up.

Yeah, be curious what results he has in the coming days.

A friend of mine's mother (94) tested positive but never developed any symptoms and no one around her ever tested positive. I think there's quite a lot of false positives.

84 posted on 08/17/2021 5:48:59 PM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem by far is that most of the news media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
Good advice for the vaccinated from a pro vax doctor;

If you've been fully vaccinated, you should consider measuring your IgG antibody levels against SARS-C0V-2 Spike protein with @Labcorp.

If appears that many "fully vaccinated" Americans R getting infected. Make sure the vaccine is actually working in your body!@TuckerCarlson— Hooman Noorchashm MD, PhD (@noorchashm) August 18, 2021


85 posted on 08/17/2021 5:59:47 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: libertylover

Most COVID-19 Patients at Israel Hospital Fully Vaccinated, Doctor Calls Mandates ‘Diabolic’

By Author:
Steven Li, MD
August 8, 2021

https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/08/08/israel-hospital-vaccinated.html


86 posted on 08/17/2021 6:02:34 PM PDT by mikelets456
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To: Jaded

Your employer is misinformed, IF he really believes that. I can understand employers desire to get their employees vaccinated, to prevent as much lost production as they can, but I don’t think they should tell their employees things that simply are not true to attain that end, whether intentional or not.. There is enough misinformation out there already.


87 posted on 08/17/2021 6:08:49 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Jaded

Anyway,for my post to not be taken the wrong way, Vaccination won’t protect anyone from getting or spreading, but just minimizes the symptoms. My mother in law died from COVID a year ago in June. There were no vaccines. We couldn’t visit her in the hospital. We were on the phone with her nurse who was holding her hand when she passed. She did have other health issues, so she very well might not have been with us today, even if she didn’t have COVID.


88 posted on 08/17/2021 6:19:51 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: libertylover

More likely the Mom still had a immune system strong enough to beat down the virus before she felt sick / had symptoms / became contagious. There was enough virus in her when she got tested to be detected, but that was as far as it got. She was positive for infection, not disease.

I had not quite the same thing happen when a co-worker exposed me to TB. I tested positive for TB infection, but had not yet developed TB disease when I was tested. Treatment was prescribed immediately and it (primarily) squashed the TB bacteria in me before they got far enough to cause symptoms or damage. Many vaccines do essentially the same thing, but utilize what is in effect “pre-training” to harness one’s own immune system to fight a pathogen early on.

Maybe one of our MD’s can weigh in, but I’m pretty darn sure getting flu vaccine would not prevent a person exposed to flu from testing positive to a sensitive test, even if the vaccine was spot on for the strain and the person’s immune system reacted ideally. (This assuming the innate immune system had been significantly breached.)


89 posted on 08/17/2021 6:22:42 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Sooner Gal

You are conflating Covid 19 disease with Covid 19 infection. This distinction was very clear to me when I got a TB infection. (See my post above.)

By definition, a “disease” “produces specific signs or symptoms” (Oxford) or, per Wikipedia “A disease is a particular abnormal condition that negatively affects the structure or function of all or part of an organism...”

If you are asymptomatic and never do develop symptoms, you did not get the disease. You CAN be infected and may be a carrier / spreader, but without a negative effect on you, you are not / were not, by definition, diseased.

If you are infected you will be asymptomatic initially, and IF that progresses to negative effect(s) then you are “diseased”.

I will say that the fact sheet is typically CDC “for public distribution” sloppy: All 3 top paragraphs should use the word “disease” and the 3rd paragraph skips it. Still, 2 out of 3 should get the idea across to most anyone who can understand what “disease” means.


90 posted on 08/17/2021 7:02:33 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Enlightened1

Some day, probably in eternity, people will look back and realize, if you get the jab’s, you get the virus... and die way younger, and have kids with lifespans of a dog or cat.


91 posted on 08/17/2021 7:25:03 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: patriotfury

“Some day, probably in eternity, people will look back and realize, if [they took] the jab’s, they [took] the virus... and [died way] younger, and had kids with lifespans of a dog or cat.”

There fixed it... I think.


92 posted on 08/17/2021 7:27:57 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: Quickgun; frogjerk; shadowlands1960; House Atreides; 2aProtectsTheRest

One of our local (sort of*) TV stations interviewed a local doctor, a very reasonable, matter of fact, and well informed guy, in a rather long interview. It could have easily been extended to 1/2 hour, and, in fact I wish it had.** Using almost exclusively data from his own practice and the health care group he works in, he made a damn convincing case for anyone not having a contra-indication for the Covid vaccines to get vaccinated. One mention he made got me thinking, and I concluded...

There are two different types of asymptomatic Covid cases. One type (his mention) get infected, are a few days later asymptomatic and very contagious for perhaps two days, then continue on to significant symptoms that usually put the diseased person in bed (or worse) for the rest of their disease run, while their contagiousness (of Covid anyway) usually decreases in the last days of the disease.

The majority of those infected are asymptomatic or have very mild symptoms and DON’T get any worse. I suspect that if the virus is losing the battle, it sheds much less effectively too. If I understood him correctly, the Dr. indicated their data showed little spread from those who remained asymptomatic.

*Fringe reception.

**This Dr. was clearly very committed to his patients (came back to his old hometown in a lowish population area to practice), but also very “non-hype”, and remarkably clear with his explanations and info. The young reporterette asked some quite good questions, too. If these two had been the face of a prominent national educational effort on Covid, I’ll bet we’d have a 80% vaccination rate and 50-60% of the fatalities.


93 posted on 08/17/2021 8:53:40 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Sicon

No flu was ever remotely this infectious, esp. not cranking out the shedding that Delta does.


94 posted on 08/17/2021 8:55:19 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.
No flu was ever remotely this infectious,

Riiiiight. Most infectiious and deadly disease EVAH!!!! Except that it’s not. We have a year and a half of hard data that says it’s not.

Remember when they were saying that it “survived” on hard surfaces for hours, maybe even days? Yeah, except that it doesn’t. Remember when they claimed that being within 6’ of someone meant you were very likely to catch it? Yeah, except they left out that you need to be within 6’ for at least 10-15 minutes, INDOORS, to even have a chance of catching it.

Every single thing they told you about “COVID” is a lie, and a provable lie at that.

95 posted on 08/17/2021 9:24:15 PM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: mac_truck
The unvacinated play themselves.

How so?

96 posted on 08/17/2021 10:38:25 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: Quickgun; P-Marlowe

It says he was fully vaccinated.

Ridiculous. We played this game back in the old flu days 3 years ago. Honesty at the time said that maybe it’ll help and maybe it won’t. We chose and went about our daily lives. Some got the flu shot and some didn’t.

The world didn’t end.


97 posted on 08/18/2021 4:09:30 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: Enlightened1

As we’re learning, nobody will ever be “fully vaccinated.” Boosters will go on and on and on.


98 posted on 08/18/2021 7:16:14 AM PDT by BozoTexino (RIP GOP)
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To: Quickgun

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/covid-19-coronavirus-vaccine-full-immunity-pfizer-moderna-johnson-and-johnson-fact-check/65-513d8a1b-f7fb-4b2e-869c-30d2539d16f5


99 posted on 08/18/2021 8:54:37 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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