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The Trumpian French Doctor Behind the Chloroquine Hype
Slate.com ^ | 3-30-2020 | ROBERT ZARETSKY

Posted on 03/30/2020 3:27:37 PM PDT by monkeyshine

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To: Balding_Eagle

Good point! I guess that’s a “Trumpian” way of seeing it!


41 posted on 03/30/2020 4:23:49 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: monkeyshine

Peruse later.


42 posted on 03/30/2020 4:30:39 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: monkeyshine

Of course they are trying to poopoo it. Trump touted so they MUST oppose it. As has been said, if Trump came out in favor of oxygen, they would hold their breath until they passed out.


43 posted on 03/30/2020 4:32:33 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A socalist is someone that wants everything you have except your job.)
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To: monkeyshine

Watch the video explaining why use zinc with hydroxtchloroquine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7F1cnWup9M&feature


44 posted on 03/30/2020 4:33:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Steve_Seattle

Trumpian is just another way to say Deplorable.


45 posted on 03/30/2020 4:40:54 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

Ah, so now I’m a deplorable Trumpian? I like it!


46 posted on 03/30/2020 4:43:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: monkeyshine

Fine - no liberals/Dems get the drugs.


47 posted on 03/30/2020 4:43:29 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: MHGinTN

>>>Ah, so now I’m a deplorable Trumpian? I like it!<<<

Since you like it, you are actually an Irredeemable Deplorable Trumpian or is it an Irredeemable Trumpian Deplorable?

Either way, Congratulations!


48 posted on 03/30/2020 4:46:19 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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To: Paradox

This is easy, since they don’t believe Trump, all TDS sufferers should refuse any treatment with hydroxychloroquine, and let us idiot Trump supporters (and non haters) have it instead. Sounds fair to me.

Don’t forget we’re also non believers in science, i’m a stickler for accreditation.


49 posted on 03/30/2020 4:57:06 PM PDT by heshtesh
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To: rktman

The truth is the drugs may be effective. The may decrease mortality. How much? No one knows. If Raoult publishes and is correct, doctors have the go ahead, I have reasoned out how it will be used, people will be disappointed. They seem to think there is enough Plaquenil in the Universe 330 million people could take it prophylactically. In reality, it’s use will be very focused, to reduce length of stay and unburden the healthcare system. Your average person won’t see it, even if it “works” we don’t know how effective it will be.


50 posted on 03/30/2020 4:57:11 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: MHGinTN

Thank you for that link!


51 posted on 03/30/2020 5:00:32 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine

Pass it along


52 posted on 03/30/2020 5:30:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: monkeyshine

What a loaded pile of manure.


53 posted on 03/30/2020 5:32:40 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: monkeyshine

That’s a bombshell !!Dr Didier Raoult, the world’s foremost authority on infectious diseases, all of a sudden is Trump stooge. I totally believe the Stalinist writers shilling for the deep state.


54 posted on 03/30/2020 6:02:12 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Steve_Seattle
I wonder why Dr. Raoult is suddenly deemed "Trumpian"? As I understand it, he is highly respected in his field, so if if he and other doctors report good results with these drugs, aren't those who dismiss them the "anti-science" ones?

I wonder why the leftist press ignores the 17 other scientists, most of whom are also doctors, who are co-authors of the paper with Dr. Raoult. And how do the politics or views of the scientists even matter if what they are reporting isn't an opinion, but the results of virus levels measured with a PCR based instrument from two groups of patients.

Unless Slate is suggesting that the French researchers made up the data then the people who ran the research and gathered the data don't matter. The data itself is all that matters, anybody can do their own analysis of it.

55 posted on 03/30/2020 6:07:02 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: KarlInOhio

Zero. They will go down quickly just like a 2 bit whore.


56 posted on 03/30/2020 6:11:17 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet
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To: ETCM
"Raoult’s method, according to one critic, is to task a young researcher at IHU with an experiment, then co-sign the piece before it is submitted to publication."

That is how research is done around the world. And that is probably one reason that 18 names are on the first paper IHU published.

Here is the original paper

57 posted on 03/30/2020 6:14:41 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: wastoute

The data published March 17 is pretty strong.

https://www.mediterranee-infection.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Hydroxychloroquine_final_DOI_IJAA.pdf

It has been substantiated greatly, but only anecdotally, by two other advocates using the treatment including the two doctors in New York who have gone public about their regimens.

In the PDF link above, there is a chart showing the Chloroquine and Azythromycin combination vs the Control arm, on day 3 you see a dramatic improvement and by day 5 virtual remission. P values are .002 and .001 respectively. It is not a perfect study, short of what FDA would normally want to approve a new drug, but for new drugs FDA would want a lower than .05 P value (confidence that the results are not random fluke). And this is an old, generally safe drug with minimal drug interactions, so there is very little risk in using it except in narrow sets of conditions or medicine combinations.

(FYI <.05 means better than 1 in 20 chance, and .001 basically means 1 in 10,000 chance that the results were just a freak occurrence and that these drug arm patients somehow miraculously got better vs the control arm which more or less stayed sick the whole 5 days.)

I concede it’s still an “if” but given the data, and the lack of risk, it should be green lighted ASAP.


58 posted on 03/30/2020 6:41:12 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: MHGinTN

I’ve seen some of his other videos before - one in particular about beta blockers and whether they may inhibit the virus ability to bind to cells receptors.


59 posted on 03/30/2020 6:44:09 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine

ACE 2 blockers


60 posted on 03/30/2020 6:49:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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