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The Trumpian French Doctor Behind the Chloroquine Hype
Slate.com ^ | 3-30-2020 | ROBERT ZARETSKY

Posted on 03/30/2020 3:27:37 PM PDT by monkeyshine

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To: gibsonguy
Note: "Trumpian"?😕
21 posted on 03/30/2020 3:48:09 PM PDT by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: monkeyshine

This is easy, since they don’t believe Trump, all TDS sufferers should refuse any treatment with hydroxychloroquine, and let us idiot Trump supporters (and non haters) have it instead. Sounds fair to me.


22 posted on 03/30/2020 3:49:11 PM PDT by Paradox (Don't call them mainstream, there is nothing mainstream about the MSM.)
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To: CMSMC

Yes I’ve read two of his reports and his letter to the FDA/CDC/Trump outlining his protocol. That Doctor adds Zinc to the therapy, I am not 100% sure why but I think it has to do with preventing virus from finding cell receptors to feed on.

I also saw another NY doctor on TV saying he gave the combination to over 100 patients with only one who passed.

If you add it up you have a pool of about 2000 patients, with only 2 deaths. So that would be 0.1% mortality rate, same as the regular flu. Compared to standard treatment (which is basically nothing at all except wait it out and hope you don’t die) where the mortality rate could be anywhere from 0.7%-5.0% (we can’t really know yet) the results appear to be truly effective.

It is not a perfect clinical trial but the odds that we found an effective treatment. I am no MD or statistician, but IMO this regimen should be given right away to people who are symptomatic and with underlying conditions and/or older, or anyone of any age or state who is showing worsening symptoms.


23 posted on 03/30/2020 3:50:16 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine
I wonder why Dr. Raoult is suddenly deemed "Trumpian"? As I understand it, he is highly respected in his field, so if if he and other doctors report good results with these drugs, aren't those who dismiss them the "anti-science" ones?

I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that many in the media are taking the side of the virus over trying to save human lives, just because they hate Trump and want a worst case scenario to hopefully get rid of him. These are truly repulsive people.

I guarantee, if Trump had brushed-off these treatments as "unproven," the media would be taking exactly the opposite view, i.e., Trump is "anti-science" and is not listening to the experts.
24 posted on 03/30/2020 3:51:46 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: monkeyshine
Here is the dirty stuff on him "Raoult’s method, according to one critic, is to task a young researcher at IHU with an experiment, then co-sign the piece before it is submitted to publication."

Ok so he comes up with the idea for the experiment and gives it to a grad student/post doc to do the experiment. So whose idea was it?????? That is why his name goes on the paper. It was his idea in the first place.

What they don't accuse Raoult and his co-authors of his fraudulent results or sloppy work or trivial experiments which would be the only legitimate complaint.

None of this goes to the underlying question - does the stuff work or not? The ad hominems are irrelevant.

25 posted on 03/30/2020 3:53:25 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: monkeyshine
Raoult has cast his critics as creatures of a kind of état profond [translation - deep state!!!!], one peopled by “pedantic Parisian doctors” incapable of doing real research.

Sounds like Washington DC.

26 posted on 03/30/2020 3:56:05 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Hostage

Yes, I just replied to another poster about that NY doctor. Remarkable results. He has a protocol developed for when and to whom to administer the drugs, and also adds Zinc...

That’s just one of the many things that is so bad about our media these days. They don’t even bother to do the basic research. Or if they do, they are using search engines that are censoring or ranking down certain information for whatever reason. Had this author any sense to research the drug combination and the several places it has been used he wouldn’t be so blazé about calling it ‘hype’ and ‘Trumpian’.

And since when does one’s personality or personal history matter to science? It either works, or it doesn’t. I don’t care about the doctor’s background I care about his cleverness in figuring out this combination and the data they provide that helps all of us.

All 3 drugs are cheap generics that cost no more than $20 all-in.


27 posted on 03/30/2020 3:56:27 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: AndyJackson

Great catch! I can speak a little French and even that went over my head. Freudian? Or a hint?


28 posted on 03/30/2020 3:57:19 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: AndyJackson
Dang, I just wrote the same thing but you said it better.
29 posted on 03/30/2020 3:59:53 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Hostage

Interesting video. Turns out Zinc is the Kungflu killer.


30 posted on 03/30/2020 4:00:05 PM PDT by deweyfrank (Nobody's Perfect)
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To: monkeyshine

The zinc ions block the virus replication sites in the cells. The chloroquine enables the zinc ions to get into the cells.


31 posted on 03/30/2020 4:02:00 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
Easy solution: give the drug only to Trump supporters.

You sly dog! I like the way you think!

32 posted on 03/30/2020 4:02:46 PM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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To: Steve_Seattle

I don’t even know what “Trumpian” means. I think the author let slip what he really thought through the attempt to write an article undermining the POTUS and the successes seen by the drugs touted by Trump.

By calling it “Trumpian”, if it works, the author is showing his dismay that Trump may have been right.


33 posted on 03/30/2020 4:06:38 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine

He doesn’t score well on rate my professor
https://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=237502


34 posted on 03/30/2020 4:06:49 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: Hostage
But what about the good New York Jewish Doctor taking care of the Hasidic community?

Unfortunately he has also been dismissed as "Trumpian" for his braggadocio and his closeness with Giuliani. Dr. Oz of TV fame was dismissed because he knew Trump during his celebrity days. So far no one outside of Trump's orbit or without his predilections has championed this drug.

35 posted on 03/30/2020 4:10:39 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: monkeyshine

I’m glad you posted a thread about so we can see what the FR community thinks about it. I really don’t like ever reading Slate so this is a good way to see the impact they have which as far as I can tell is zero.


36 posted on 03/30/2020 4:11:05 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: nwrep

Yes but the Slate morons didn’t mention him did they? I never read Slate. I saw the headline and knew they were aiming at Dr. Raoult in France.

But Dr. Zelenko, why not smear him as well?

The answer is they would suffer massive blowback from the NY Jewish Hasidic community if they attacked Dr. Zelenko. So they won’t dare disparage Dr. Zelenko else they get their asses handed back to them.


37 posted on 03/30/2020 4:15:40 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: AndyJackson
"Raoult’s method, according to one critic, is to task a young researcher at IHU with an experiment, then co-sign the piece before it is submitted to publication."

According to one critic

Through the eyes of the grad students actually doing all the "work", I'm sure that's how pretty much all university research projects look. In reality, I'll bet Raoult is contributing a lot more than his signature.

38 posted on 03/30/2020 4:16:00 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: monkeyshine

These articles are great, they call attention to a treatment ‘recommended’ by Trump, while complaining about it.

Slate is reaching an audience that our side can’t, carrying to them the good news.


39 posted on 03/30/2020 4:20:46 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: monkeyshine

Who in the blazes reads Slute?


40 posted on 03/30/2020 4:23:30 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Democratus Partitus Delendus Est)
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