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Russia's SU-35 Is Powerful, But Can It Defeat America's F-22 Or F-35?
The National Interest ^
| 11/07/2019
Posted on 11/07/2019 7:50:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Even Russia and China are not likely to attempt to develop an all fifth-generation fighter fleetinstead, for the foreseeable future, the derivatives of the Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker air superiority fighter will make up the bulk of their tactical air arsenals. The most potent Flanker derivative is the Su-35, which is a much-improved version with vastly improved avionics, engines and airframe. In the years ahead, this latest
Flanker-E is likely to proliferate around the world.
To: SeekAndFind
Military section in NI is rubbish.
To: SeekAndFind
This article is nonsense. I think the F-15 can still be dominate against the best Russia and Chinese jets.
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posted on
11/07/2019 7:55:44 AM PST
by
Psycho_Runner
(Have a good day, unless you have other plans.)
To: Psycho_Runner
The article says that almost exactly about the F-15.
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posted on
11/07/2019 7:59:00 AM PST
by
DesertRhino
(Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
To: SeekAndFind
Simple answer. No.
Even if the Russians develop a Gen5 fighter they do not have the resources to build enough of them to survive US air superiority for long enough to make a difference in a conflict (that is, if the US remains committed to the conflict).
Now the Chinese may be different story. They have far greater resources and most of their tech has been provided by us at the approval of previous presidents, starting with BJ Clinton.
Just my $.02.
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posted on
11/07/2019 8:01:42 AM PST
by
Afterguard
(Deplorable me!)
To: SeekAndFind
Isn’t the next air ace going to be Droney VonDronofen?
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posted on
11/07/2019 8:08:53 AM PST
by
Rinnwald
To: Afterguard
If they build them, they sell them.
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posted on
11/07/2019 8:10:19 AM PST
by
AppyPappy
(How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
To: SeekAndFind
The real question is can the F-35 -bomber- operate in an S-400 environment in a general war.
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posted on
11/07/2019 8:11:59 AM PST
by
DesertRhino
(Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
To: SeekAndFind
If this administration does not sell our secrets we can move ahead of the competition.
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posted on
11/07/2019 8:12:54 AM PST
by
mountainlion
(Live well for those that did not make it back.)
To: SeekAndFind
If I was a Tesla fan, I would just brag about the SU53’s 0-600 time.
It would prove I know nothing about Aircraft.
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posted on
11/07/2019 8:13:08 AM PST
by
ImJustAnotherOkie
(All I know is The I read in the papers.)
To: Psycho_Runner
Not if it’s deprived of AWACS support. And it’s not going up against the jets - it’s going up against the missiles.
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posted on
11/07/2019 8:13:57 AM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: DesertRhino
That may come down to if the S-400 is properly maintained, and I seriously doubt they will be properly maintained.
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posted on
11/07/2019 8:14:43 AM PST
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ImJustAnotherOkie
(All I know is The I read in the papers.)
To: DesertRhino
Well, the F-35 has some questions about its operational capability even outside of hostile peer or near peer airspace...
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posted on
11/07/2019 8:15:08 AM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: SeekAndFind
High - Low mix is the stated Pentagon objective.
There are F-15s that will fly into the 2030s.
The difference between US forces and those of China/Russia is that we will fly a much greater number of real stealth aircraft, and the high/low mix will be FULLY networked and networked with ships, AWACS and multiple other sensor platforms.
Within a decade we will field armed stealth drones which will also be part of the extended network.
A true point and shoot 360deg view of the battle space.
All the pilot has to do is look at the target and depress their thumb, without regard to which platform releases the missile.
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posted on
11/07/2019 8:16:41 AM PST
by
Mariner
(War Criminal #18)
To: KC_Lion
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posted on
11/07/2019 8:18:49 AM PST
by
Army Air Corps
(Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
To: DesertRhino
The real question is . . .
What a refreshing post. Someone who 1) asks a question rather than declare a 'truth' that implies any who disagree are stupid/wrong/ignorant, and 2) asks the right question.
A P-47 (or the A-10) might be the absolutely best aircraft in history to fight against Afghan irregular troops, but there are a lot of aircraft that can fight in that environment. Not many can survive in a peer or near-peer threat environment.
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posted on
11/07/2019 8:21:05 AM PST
by
Phlyer
To: Mariner
Again - what happens when the AWACS gets taken out and our pilots have to search for targets themselves?
Remember, the paradigm for today’s warfare environment in a peer or near-peer conflict is, “You radiate, you die.”
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posted on
11/07/2019 8:23:46 AM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Spktyr
Well, the F-35 has some questions . . .
Back when I worked in the aerospace industry, we all decided we wanted to work for the "Controversial Aircraft Company" because they made all the aircraft.
Every aircraft has detractors who 'raise questions.' Many of them are sore losers whose particular favorite did not get chosen for production. Many are armchair generals who prove the adage about 'a little knowledge.'
That doesn't make them wrong, but it does mean that having 'questions' about a system is not a particularly compelling argument against it.
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posted on
11/07/2019 8:24:54 AM PST
by
Phlyer
To: Phlyer
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posted on
11/07/2019 8:28:11 AM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Afterguard
One of the things is not the capability of your most advanced fighter, a fighter that you cannot build and cannot keep flying if you do build it. The strength of the USAF is that it is a very effective - well for a military agency = system of using large numbers of advanced fighters in sustained operations including the tactics, logistics, maintenance and training required to keep them operating.
I'm ex Navy and don't want to say anything nice about the Air Force. Still they aren't half bad at their job.
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