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The costly reality of owning an electric car: How customers are being slugged $33,000 to repair
Daily Mail ^ | October 2, 2019 | Stephen Johnson

Posted on 10/03/2019 7:43:12 PM PDT by lowbridge

A Nissan Leaf owner has received a $33,000 bill to replace the battery in his electric car - even though it's now only worth $12,000.Canberra engineer Phillip Carlson bought his fully-electric hatchback brand new for $53,500 in August 2012.

Just seven years later, he can't drive his environmentally-friendly car because he isn't prepared to stump up $33,385 to replace the lithium ion battery.

The tab included $750 for labour and $29,600 for the battery plus the 10 per cent GST. Mr Carlson, a married father with a daughter, believed his new car had a range of 175km but even as a new vehicle, his Nissan was only able to travel 120km.

'Getting 120km brand new was a real stretch and it was more like 110km,' he said.

Before he took his car in for repairs in February this year, it could only travel 40km, or just 25km with the heater on in winter.  

The problems had worsened in 2017, just five years after it was first registered.

His Nissan, with a 24 kilowatt hour battery, struggled to travel beyond 60km and the battery was still covered by the five-year warranty.

'I started having trouble just driving from home to the dealership and back just for a service,' Mr Carlson said.  

Mr Carlson had made a series of complaints during the warranty period, only for Nissan to tell him there was nothing wrong.

His Nissan dealership in the Australian Capital Territory earlier this year gave him a quote for $33,385.

'That was the first time they bothered looking at it after I complained so much Nissan told them to do a battery test and they claimed it's totally fine,' he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: australia; electriccar; electriccars; lithiumionbattery; nissanleaf
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To: lowbridge
'“I started having trouble just driving from home to the dealership and back just for a service,”

LOLOL. The price of some good old liberal Virtue Signaling has sure shot up! For a long time, the government paid you to shout “Look at me! I’m GREEN.”

41 posted on 10/03/2019 8:36:31 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: lowbridge

Those are aussie dollars worth 68cents of our dollar. Still a hefty sum.


42 posted on 10/03/2019 8:37:27 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care!)
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To: lowbridge

Bovine Feces.

That is the reality of owning a first generation Nissan LEAF.

When it comes to total cost of ownership you are better off owning a Tesla than a comparable Cadillac,Mercedes,or Lexus.


43 posted on 10/03/2019 8:37:40 PM PDT by Reaganez
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To: RightGeek

Nothing like steel boogers to shout out “LOSER.”


44 posted on 10/03/2019 8:41:35 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Zhang Fei

Latest numbers I find are $2850 forva refabricated battery and$6250 for new.


45 posted on 10/03/2019 8:43:36 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: lowbridge

I think the cheaper replacement cost might be where they test the cells and only replace the “bad” ones. The rest will keep going bad as you drive it.


46 posted on 10/03/2019 8:46:31 PM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: lowbridge

But how many virtue signaling points did he get?


47 posted on 10/03/2019 8:47:51 PM PDT by ebshumidors
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To: Seruzawa

“I think the cheaper replacement cost might be where they test the cells and only replace the “bad” ones. The rest will keep going bad as you drive it.”

They swap the pack. $2850 for rehab, $6250 for new.


48 posted on 10/03/2019 8:48:24 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: lowbridge

This sounds like a Nissan Leaf problem, rather than an electric car problem. My parents bought a Volt a year ago. So far no problems. Of course we don’t get cold winters in Southern California. And considering my commute is 35-40 miles each way, having a Prius has saved me a fortune in gas money in the long run.


49 posted on 10/03/2019 8:48:32 PM PDT by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Valve seem deals aren’t hard to do.


50 posted on 10/03/2019 8:49:17 PM PDT by ebshumidors
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To: RightGeek

Well, except for the skull tat’, she is a rather fetching blue-haired old lady.


51 posted on 10/03/2019 8:54:05 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: FormerFRLurker

“This sounds like a Nissan Leaf problem”

Lots of documented happy 2012 Leaf Owners.


52 posted on 10/03/2019 8:55:54 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator
“This sounds like a Nissan Leaf problem”

Nope, it is an Electric Car problem. Batteries can only be charged so many times and there capacity to take a charge diminishes with time. If too many cells fail (and they do) then it is too bad charlie. All Electric Car battery packs WILL FAIL with enough time and recharge events. It is a GIVEN.

Not only that but the manufacturer must maintain safety standards if they detect issues. Thus the battery pack of yesterday may not be available but only the revised safe one (which can cost more)

This was a 2012 model (would have been purchased in 2011). This is 2019 so the lowest number of years would be 7. This is about right for failures to occur with a normal to high rate of charging.

This is the Electric Car world. It is a GIVEN.

53 posted on 10/03/2019 9:11:49 PM PDT by CptnObvious (Question her now.)
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To: lowbridge

Should have got the option of the wood or coal fired steam generator pull behind trailer.
Or the extendable pole, jumper cables and step down transformer battery charger.


54 posted on 10/03/2019 9:12:24 PM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best)
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To: lowbridge

Good thing Trump has ensured cheap plentiful gas. Who needs 100 mile radius’?


55 posted on 10/03/2019 9:13:05 PM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: lowbridge

What’s the energy footprint for cars that have to be junked after 7 years?


56 posted on 10/03/2019 9:17:39 PM PDT by GOPJ (<img src=https://i.imgur.com/WjoG6dB.png width=500> The American press sucks...)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton; TexasGator

TexasGator is mucking about in the wrong place.


57 posted on 10/03/2019 9:22:41 PM PDT by A strike (Import third world become third world)
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To: lowbridge
I watched a video a few days ago about this very subject. The guy has a YouTube channel “Uncle Tonys Garage” he talks about older cars, mostly Mopars. He used to build race cars, and wrote for a car magazine. He still wrenches on cars, and does videos related to building or keeping up old muscle cars. He voices his opinion on why electric cars won’t be mainstream for a long time.

Uncle Tony’s Garage

58 posted on 10/03/2019 9:25:15 PM PDT by dznutz
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To: ebshumidors

Small block Chevys are prone to thenguidesnleaking at around 150k. Usually not a big deal, just a little exhaust smoke upon initial startup


59 posted on 10/03/2019 9:38:26 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (Virtue signalling is no virtue)
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To: CptnObvious

Please retract your post for misquoting me. Thank you.


60 posted on 10/03/2019 9:41:08 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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