Posted on 08/22/2019 9:47:46 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
The wild chestnuts around this leafy college town used to grow in such great numbers that locals collected the nuts by the bushel and shipped them off to New York City for a small fortune.
These days, though, it can be hard to find a single tree thanks to a devastating blight imported from Asia in the late 1800s.
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That’s how it always starts. “Ooh! Ahh! The American Chestnut is back!” Then later there’s running and screaming.
Back in the 70’s hiking around the Blue Ridge it wasn’t uncommon to come across fallen American Chestnut logs.
A few years ago a friend was demolishing an old house and he gave me a couple of beams which I cut in blocks and burned in my woodstove. A couple months later he figured out it was American Chestnut and called me to see if I still had them. Too late, but it burned great. Actually, there were quite a few more beams that I did not take whih were made ino fireplace mantles.
Amen brother! Just like the grotesque and fraudulent assault on DDT, the environmental terrorists are now targeting Monsanto and the various products they produce........
The EPA needs to be disbanded NOW and DDT needs to be reinstated as a legitimate pest control..........
Any treatment has to be systemic and regularly applied but eventually the trees will succumb to the parasite...........
Wow! That sounds like a variation of what the Climate Mongers say to people who scientifically object to manmade global warming:
“You must work for Exxon-Mobil.”
Snide-as comment. Are you a Leftist?
It had nothing to do with it. The trees were almost all dead long before DDT was banned.
I’m also not sure what the connection to elms is.
Elm trees too.
We’re participating in the project and have planted about a dozen of the trees.
We report regularly on their progress.
I think the approach shows a lot of promise.
As for Elm trees, there were still plenty of Elm trees around in 1971. Check out this article from the New York Times in 1971: Dutch Elm Disease Spreads Westward
Here is an excerpt from that 1971 NYT article: "...Forestry officials in Minnesota reported this week that there had been a 30 per cent increase in elm deaths this summer and the disease had spread into six new counties. Here in Chicago, where there are between 750,000 and one million elms in the parks, along the streets and in yards of homes, city foresters responsible for parkway trees expect to have to remove more than 50,000 dead elms by the end of the year. Last year 50,098 had to be cut down along the streets alone..." There is a connection to Elm trees. Dutch Elm Disease was a fungus, and it was spread by a species of beetle called the Elm Bark Beetle. The only thing keeping Dutch Elm Disease at bay by 1971 for the remaining trees was dusting with DDT that was particularly effective against that beetle. That is the connection with DDT. Anyway, it was my mistake, sorry for the confusion.
Mega-fauna were in Patagonia before it warmed.
40 years is hardly an adequate sampling period in terms of evolution, now is it?
No one at monsanto has seen any hard evidence of negative GMO consequences and everyone knows that peer-reviewed journals never publish anything that isn’t true, nor do they refuse to publish anything that might interrupt the revenue stream.
The hubris of scientists almost equals that of the churchmen.
PhD = Piled Higher and Deeper
Yes, it was a snide comment. That was the intention.
No, I am not a leftist, but thank you for asking.
We're talking man-years of science, not linear years of time. With thousands of scientists working, the "knowledge time" is on the order of thousands of years. If there was an effect, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SEEN AND PUBLISHED.
"No one at monsanto has seen any hard evidence of negative GMO consequences and everyone knows that peer-reviewed journals never publish anything that isn’t true, nor do they refuse to publish anything that might interrupt the revenue stream."
There are many, many organizations other than Monsanto doing research on genetics, including many that are actively looking for any effects from GMO. Again, no such effects have been seen by any group. And you obviously know nothing about peer-reviewed journals and how they work. I've published in such journals, and they are unaffected by any "revenue stream" from Monsanto or anyone else.
"The hubris of scientists almost equals that of the churchmen."
And the hubris of the "true believer" in a conspiracy is worse than either.
"PhD = Piled Higher and Deeper"
So, in the end, you have nothing.
How many generations of American Chestnut trees have been propagated since the wheat gene was inserted? Your "thousands of years" of knowledge time is meaningless in this context. You truly do not have a clue what will happen as a result of gene splicing.
Roundup was harmless until it wasn't...
How many different species of plants have been gene spliced since the technology was invented?? It's not just "American Chestnut trees" under discussion here, but EVERY SINGLE GMO plant... which "does" amount to thousands of years of gene-splice experience....ALL without any detectable negative consequences of any sort.
"Your "thousands of years" of knowledge time is meaningless in this context."
That is because your stated "context" is incorrect.
"You truly do not have a clue what will happen as a result of gene splicing.
I have a pretty good clue that it isn't harmful, or that if it is, the effects are so minimal as to be undetectable.
"Roundup was harmless until it wasn't..."
"Roundup" isn't what was genetically manipulated (having no genes, it would be kind of hard to do), it was a variety of soybean plant, and the cause of harm from Roundup isn't GMO-based.
I say again....show me ANY evidence that ANY GMO manipulataed plant has demonstrated a harmful effect of any sort.
*** “YES
The wood is excellent for building
They generate a very tasty nut for food
They are beautiful
They produce ample shade
They produce oxygen
So easy a choice that I wonder why the question is being asked?” ***
It is excellent in all it’s forms, Thumbs Up, I agree 100%
Hi Wonder
My problems w GMO are in foods that we eat everyday.
The very Chemicals that they are resistant to are incorporated into them. Plants have many natural defenses and have those same chemicals in their fruit and fiber, we have introduced new chemicals that we may or may not be able to process internally and yes Monsanto is the largest of the companies to do so.
Roundup may be harmless or it may be a real killer... I would choose to not be a guinea pig... IF I was given the choice
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