Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Twin Peaks bikers' attorney seeks 'special master' to oversee property return (Waco)
WacoTrib ^ | 6/5/2019 | Tommy Witherspoon

Posted on 06/05/2019 3:55:20 PM PDT by Elderberry

An attorney for six bikers arrested after the 2015 Twin Peaks shootout in Waco is asking a judge to appoint a “special master” to oversee the return of items seized from almost 200 bikers who went to jail.

Houston attorney Paul Looney filed a civil petition Wednesday morning in Waco’s 414th State District Court asking Judge Vicki Menard to appoint someone to help “make order out of all this chaos,” as Looney put it.

Looney, representing Ray Nelson, Phillip Ray White, Cody Ledbetter, Marcus Ryan Pilkington, William English and Morgan English, said he is trying to help them and others get items returned to them that were seized by police and prosecutors after the shootout that left nine dead and 20 injured.

Items being sought include “wallets, cellular phones, vehicles, clothing, identification and other papers, firearms, knives, tools, chains, belt buckles, shoes, boots and money,” according to Looney’s petition.

“There is no reason any of this property should not be returned without delay,” Looney said. “In fact, there is good cause to appoint a special master due to the volume of individual items of property involved, believed to be over 1,000 individual items.”

Looney said it does not matter to him who is appointed to oversee the project, but said someone with auditing skills would be helpful.

“This is in the nature of accumulating a valid inventory,” Looney said. “I don’t care who does it. I would just like to see someone start to get after it and start to make order out of all this chaos and start putting closure to this.”

Only one case out of 154 indicted went to trial, and that ended in mistrial.

(Excerpt) Read more at wacotrib.com ...


TOPICS:
KEYWORDS: biker; ib4tg; reyna; texas; waco

1 posted on 06/05/2019 3:55:20 PM PDT by Elderberry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Elderberry

“There is no reason any of this property should not be returned without delay,”

There is, and it’s this:
The property has been destroyed, sold, kept by corrupt police, taken home, given out as gifts, damaged, or otherwise rendered such that financial compensation would need to be made upon return of the property.


2 posted on 06/05/2019 4:05:19 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Darksheare

3 posted on 06/05/2019 4:08:28 PM PDT by Elderberry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Elderberry

They are probably all in a huge metal bin, unlabeled.


4 posted on 06/05/2019 4:14:22 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Elderberry
Items being sought include “wallets, cellular phones, vehicles, clothing, identification and other papers, firearms, knives, tools, chains, belt buckles, shoes, boots and money,” according to Looney’s petition.

As Arnold the Terminator said, "I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle."

5 posted on 06/05/2019 4:17:59 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Darksheare

If this property doesn’t exist anymore...it’ll just trigger another court battle and the county itself gets stuck with the bill for the incompetence of the law enforcement. I’d go to each cop involved and do an audit of their possessions and cash flow since this mess started.


6 posted on 06/05/2019 4:21:10 PM PDT by pepsionice
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Elderberry

Sick, yep anything of value is gone


7 posted on 06/05/2019 4:21:49 PM PDT by easternsky
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: pepsionice

It should trigger a crapstorm, but considering how corrupt that area is this might not happen without lots of pain and anguish.


8 posted on 06/05/2019 4:25:00 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Darksheare

Yes, I would guess that most things of value have disappeared. The County Sheriff should be held personally responsible.


9 posted on 06/05/2019 4:30:03 PM PDT by PAR35
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Pearls Before Swine

I’d still like to see a millisecond by millisecond timeline of just who shot whom.


10 posted on 06/05/2019 4:30:14 PM PDT by Paladin2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Paladin2

We’d all like to see that.


11 posted on 06/05/2019 4:43:08 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Elderberry

Want your stuff back from the government? Rotsa Ruck.


12 posted on 06/05/2019 4:52:59 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Elderberry

The varied government forces didn’t see how they could possibly lose at trial and anyway they had civil asset forfeiture laws (later enhanced by the Evil Keebler Elf) that would cover for them.

This is yet another example of why pre-trial asset forfeiture needs to be banned and burned at the stake.


13 posted on 06/05/2019 5:35:59 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Elderberry

Bankrupt Waco, Bikers!


14 posted on 06/05/2019 5:36:52 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Darksheare

Betting most of that never made it to the evidence locker.


15 posted on 06/05/2019 5:38:24 PM PDT by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: \/\/ayne

That’s what used to happen. In the era of asset forfeiture laws, quite often the items are ‘disposed of’ and even if the charges were unfounded, the police get to shrug and walk away untouched instead of having to make restitution.


16 posted on 06/05/2019 5:39:11 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Pearls Before Swine

And even today, despite all the cameras on scene, witnesses and police recording devices, the City of Waco has somehow been unable to produce a single timeline of events.

Even if this had been a perfectly valid, 100 percent justified bust the day before this all happened, subsequent *proven* or admitted law enforcement actions during and after the bust indicate something was horribly, horribly wrong with the case and raid that law enforcement has and continues to desperately cover up. Up to and including imprisoning people that were on video as doing nothing other than running away from the gunfight or even just passing by - which they did.


17 posted on 06/05/2019 5:47:35 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Spktyr
After the 2015 biker shootout at Twin Peaks in Waco, Reyna orchestrated the arrests of about 200 bikers, sought indictments against 155 of them and filed civil forfeiture proceedings against 16 motorcycles, eight pickups and two SUVs.

https://www.wacotrib.com/news/courts_and_trials/supreme-court-case-legislation-take-aim-at-shady-asset-forfeiture/article_9541f708-5645-56de-b3af-417a07f1b4e4.html

18 posted on 06/05/2019 6:03:37 PM PDT by Elderberry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Elderberry

Yeah, the “There is corruption in the system, but not heeeeeere” claim and its lack of correlation to reality in many places is why red light cameras got banned in Texas last week. The same thing needs to happen to civil asset forfeiture.


19 posted on 06/05/2019 6:46:24 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson