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Time to sound the alarm about 5G?
American Thinker ^ | 05/01/2019 | Robert Arvay

Posted on 05/01/2019 7:20:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

I have a serious question.

What advantage would 5 G offer my wife and I, our sons and their wives, and nieces and nephews.

Most of us cut our tv cables a few years ago. We are using very fast business internets and have excellent mobile phone service through TracFone.

Our wifi’s give us rapid speed with our Android phones and chromebooks, my windows 10 laptop is a paper weight on my desks and serves no other purpose.

Our tv sets with the fast business internets, stream the tv we watch with zero problems.

Our Chromebooks enable us to do our banking and bill paying quickly and with minimal help. We use our Chromebooks to set up appts with health care providers and other vendors.

My wife is a typical texting Grandmother, and texts her family from Africa to the East Coast, Mid west, SW and on the West Coast. I pay like 5$ for a ton of texts a couple of times per month for her on Tracfone.

We use both use email and text to organize and set up lunches and meeting dates for the groups we belong to.

We use text and email to communicate with relatives and friends across the globe.

So what advantage will 5g offer us versus what we have now?

Or will it be like the Teslas, a tax break for those who don’t need it and extra costs for the rest of us?


21 posted on 05/01/2019 7:47:19 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( One of President TrumpÂ’s Clinging, Deploreable, Low IQ Dreg supporters helping to MAGA!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hauwei is NOT building the 5G backbone, thanks to Donald Trump.


22 posted on 05/01/2019 7:50:04 AM PDT by dangus
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s only one key question. (And the answer to it is yes, they do—all the Chinese tech companies are that way.)

But why are we putting this outside and above every home in America, when it is a much more risky technology from health, surveillance and control levels by far than even what we have out there to date?

Terrible idea. Trump’s pushing it and looking to even fund parts of it is very unfortunate. Unfortunately the info that reaches him while in office is too easily and carefully controlled as a means of controlling him.


23 posted on 05/01/2019 7:50:22 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SeekAndFind

Panasonic makes the little screens for watching movies on the seat back of the seat in front of you on a plane.

Without any announcement, a camera - facing you - was added to the screens.

Upon hearing an uproar from consumers, an airline has been putting little slips of tape over the cameras, saying the cameras had never been used and they had no plans to use them.

And I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.


24 posted on 05/01/2019 7:51:00 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: SeekAndFind

China’s done it before.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=China+put+backdoor+chips+in+corporation+computers+&form=EDGSPH&mkt=en-us&httpsmsn=1&plvar=0&refig=a591b125f30448ef8076dc4bad0a18af&PC=DCTE&sp=-1&pq=china+put+backdoor+chips+in+corporation+computers+&sc=0-50&qs=n&sk=&cvid=a591b125f30448ef8076dc4bad0a18af


25 posted on 05/01/2019 7:55:33 AM PDT by 444Flyer (John 3 Revelation 20 Joshua 24:15 Pick a side...)
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To: Mr. K

True words were never spoken.

This article is total horse hockey, except for the parts about Huawei.


26 posted on 05/01/2019 7:56:03 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: SeekAndFind

Reminds me of the plot of an indie film from a few years ago, “Dragon Day”.


27 posted on 05/01/2019 7:56:55 AM PDT by hoagy62 (America Supreme!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Sooo...if I’m building a new house, I’m wondering how I might block any “intruders” (probably will build in next 5 years in a smallish town)


28 posted on 05/01/2019 8:04:32 AM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: SeekAndFind
What good is the billions spend on ‘intelligence’ if China's Huawei is allowed full access to our secrets, computer systems, grids, and financial treasures?

Split ‘intelligence’ funding in half - one half to allow the boys to play cowboys and Indians with Russians and other ‘spy vs spy’ cartoon crap - - and the other half to DO STUFF - ACT - SOLVE PROBLEMS NOT JUST IDENTIFY THEM.

This is insane. Take action: Harden the grid, stop our enemies from getting jobs in top research facilities, close down ‘replacement parts’ for tech stuff used to spy on us... Build our own stuff... stop teaching the children of foreign intelligence in our University systems.

Or we can learn to build and use Grandma's old wood stove...

29 posted on 05/01/2019 8:27:06 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Elites reflexively exempt themselves from the ravages of their own policies." - nathanbedford)
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To: I want the USA back

The asteroid is a red herring. You really need to worry about the fleet of UFOs that is hiding behind it, filled with space vikings.


30 posted on 05/01/2019 8:38:09 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Wuli
Panasonic makes the little screens for watching movies on the seat back of the seat in front of you on a plane. Without any announcement, a camera - facing you - was added to the screens.

They want to capture your facial expressions in reaction to what you are seeing and feed it through an AI analytics program to figure out how to better market things to you. Advertising gets creepy.


31 posted on 05/01/2019 9:00:55 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: lepton

“Part of the way 5G works is with microcells”

Interesting information about 5G. I’m a techie.

My post, however, as you probably realized, is about the big picture in which electronic snoopers and saboteurs are everywhere.


32 posted on 05/01/2019 9:12:59 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Wuli

...but so what. Do I have some expectation of privacy on an airplane? No. Might I want to do a video call sometime in the future. Yes.


33 posted on 05/01/2019 9:52:03 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Grampa Dave
What advantage would 5 G offer my wife and I, our sons and their wives, and nieces and nephews.

The same could be said from the early web days of the mid 90s to now. What you said you do with your trac phones wasn't possible back then. Heck, you couldn't stream TV until about 10 years ago.

What happens next? Everything becomes wireless. Everything is interconnected. Gigabit speeds to every device.

Imagine paying almost nothing for car insurance? Totally possible with fleets of 5g cars on a highway controlled by a supercomputer. Scary to us, will be totally normal to a child born 10 years from now as they will have grown up with it.

Everything interconnects, everything is smart and with the ability to talk to a supercomputer at gigabyte speeds, anything a local device can't figure out, gets answered instantly. Not only that, there are things that we don't even know are possible once everything gets smart.

Is it all good? No. Will you need it to participate in the economy of the future? Probably. There will be ways to carve out a niche and live it it, but it will be the exception, not the rule. It won't matter as much to those of us born before cellphones and the internet, but to everyone that comes after, it will be as natural as breathing. Everything seamless.

34 posted on 05/01/2019 10:23:48 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
They also have installed a 30 year plan, and anticipate becoming world dominate 'Super power', replacing the USA by 2030.

So, they'll take over helping the helpless and trying to spread freedom and prosperity throughout the world? Cool! < /sarc >

35 posted on 05/01/2019 11:34:58 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Drew68
I tried to post it here as a thread but The New Yorker is completely off-limits, even in excerpt form.

You probably already know this trick, but you can post the headline and URL without an excerpt (to remain in compliance with the rules).

Just add your own commentary in the first post.

36 posted on 05/01/2019 12:05:41 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: cymbeline

I did. I was intending to extend the comments, by noting that even without the bugs and cameras, that just by the way it works each node tracks each cellular-aware device in 3-dimensions on a constant basis.


37 posted on 05/01/2019 10:56:35 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

“I did ... 3-dimensions”

Three dimensions? I understand two dimensions but how’s three dimensions done?


38 posted on 05/02/2019 9:09:59 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: cymbeline

It’s a beam. Angle and elevation, and distance.

Think of an antenna on top of a tower pointing at individual cars. To minimize interference between channels and allow more connections, the antenna beam-shapes, and adjusts power to the minimum necessary to maintain the channel at the optimized speed, and links channels together to create an aggregate.


39 posted on 05/02/2019 10:12:13 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

“Think of an antenna on top of a tower pointing at individual cars”

But the antenna points to lots of cars.

I’m thinking that radar can’t tell the elevation of a plane and its signal is bounced off of distant objects.


40 posted on 05/02/2019 10:18:42 AM PDT by cymbeline
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