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Golf-Home Owners Find Themselves in a Hole Lawsuits pile up and fairways fall into disrepair
Wall Street Journal ^ | Jan. 10, 2019 | By Candace Taylor

Posted on 01/13/2019 6:34:45 AM PST by dennisw

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To: dfwgator

We live on a former golf course. While it was functioning, it was great. We live in a smaller community and knew many of the players, so it was wonderful to see them, many of them older veterans of WWII, every day out on the course. The golf club doubled as a community center and restaurant and bar for the locals, and it was the heart of our neighborhood. The course shut down over 3 yrs ago. Many of the residents are cutting the grass on what was the golf course now. We don’t have water issues, so the grass remains green. Now we all use it as an informal recreation area and park. We are surrounded by federal land, national parks and wildlife land trust lands, so the local deer population has grown exponentially. Not sure what will happen with the land eventually, but many of us have gotten together with plans to try to fight off development.


101 posted on 01/13/2019 12:36:47 PM PST by binreadin
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To: SaveFerris
Aawwww geez.. The ol lady watches that crap all the time. I call it "Homo Gay TV" cause of the over-representation of gay people. Not that I really have anything against their lifestyle, but seems like every time I come thru the living room they're showing yet another gay couple around some goofy house like they make up a majority of the population. It's annoying. So I don't watch it.

And yeah, ridiculously high HOA fees are not an option. I won't pay any more to be governed. d;^)

102 posted on 01/13/2019 12:57:02 PM PST by CopperTop (Outside the wire it's just us chickens. Dig?)
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To: CopperTop

Yes, seems about 1/2 the time, anymore, “couples” are selected that will push the liberal narratives in one form or another.

Yes, a lot of gays it appears. Which is why I pretty much stopped watching it for many months now. Same kind of stuff on virtually all HGTV shows. They definitely have an agenda.


103 posted on 01/13/2019 1:02:03 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SaveFerris

[I like these people buyING ]

aaargh....


104 posted on 01/13/2019 1:03:08 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Bonemaker
... it drove all the snakes into our area.
Whereupon you got dressed up like St Patrick and had a few belts? :)
105 posted on 01/13/2019 1:09:16 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

To us outside the Ozarks it’s the real deal! OK just messing with you but I like the TV show.


106 posted on 01/13/2019 1:42:25 PM PST by dennisw
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To: major-pelham

On 95 there is a PGA Boulevard exit that always amused me. It might lead to to a dead golf course these days.


107 posted on 01/13/2019 1:46:33 PM PST by dennisw
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To: RFEngineer

So then, not all collective ownership is “another take on socialism”, and a successful corporately run golf course would not be “just another take on socialism” even though collectively owned?


108 posted on 01/13/2019 5:27:17 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

“So then, not all collective ownership is “another take on socialism”, and a successful corporately run golf course would not be “just another take on socialism” even though collectively owned?”

The article definitely describes “another take on socialism” with these failing golf courses owned collectively by HOAs.

Do you disagree? If so, why? What would have made them successful?


109 posted on 01/13/2019 6:16:07 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
"Do you disagree?"

Previously, you wrote "The bottom line is that socialism never works, and collective ownership of a golf course is just another take on socialism.”

I question the all encompassing statement "collective ownership of a golf course is just another take on socialism.”

I wouldn't have a problem if you'd written "the collective ownership of this golf course is just another take on socialism” or "this collective ownership of a golf course is just another take on socialism.”

A number of people could have invested their capital as partners or shareholders in a golf course, operating it as a business, and it still could have failed but not been "another take on socialism.

Failure of this golf course may be a case where collective ownership is "just another take on socialism" but that does not mean that collective ownership of any and all golf courses, failed or not, is "another take on socialism", as I see implied by your previous statement.

110 posted on 01/13/2019 9:01:08 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: oh8eleven

Well for me it depends which way she’s facing.


111 posted on 01/13/2019 9:54:28 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: KrisKrinkle

If a golf course, or any other enterprise for that matter, is run without regard for placing costs on users so that a rational demand response can occur that follows actual demand, then you have a recipe for disaster.

Socialism fails because there is no reason to limit costs to the user, hence, no rational demand response occurs.

Sure some socialist enterprises continue for a long time if they are able to extract capital in ever increasing amounts from a captive collective (think Social Security)

But eventually socialism always fails. There can be no other outcome.

I never said a privately run non-socialist enterprise would never fail - that is a necessary part of a capitalist economy.

To the articles point. These courses failed because their purpose was detatched from their ability to sustain operations. They ran out of “other people’s money”.


112 posted on 01/13/2019 11:32:31 PM PST by RFEngineer
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