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Did my children die because I married my cousin?
BBC ^ | 12/14/18

Posted on 12/14/2018 5:23:00 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Ruba and Saqib both carry a gene for an incurable condition, which means their children have a one-in-four chance of dying in early childhood. They've already lost three. Ruba now wants IVF, to select a healthy embryo. Saqib is putting his trust in Allah. And some relatives want them to separate and remarry.

Ruba Bibi had not wanted to marry so young. She had planned to do A-levels and go to university, but before she had finished her GCSEs her parents arranged for her to marry Saqib Mehmood, her cousin, in Pakistan. Born and brought up in Bradford, Ruba had visited Pakistan twice before the wedding - once when she was four and once when she was 12. She couldn't really remember the man she was now engaged to and had never spent time alone with him. He was 27 and worked as a driver. She was 17.

"I was really nervous because I didn't really know him," she remembers...

After three months in Pakistan she was pregnant. She returned to Bradford two months later, shocked to be having a baby so soon. But also happy.

When their son, Hassan, was born in 2007 she excitedly called Saqib to tell him that all was well, although the baby seemed to sleep a lot and had trouble feeding.

"I just thought it was normal," Ruba says...

"When I went in, the doctor told me it was very bad news. She gave me a leaflet and said he has this condition and it's very rare...."

Ruba had no idea that both she and her cousin carried the recessive gene for I-cell, a rare inherited condition that prevents a child growing and developing properly.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


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To: MeganC

Genetic Russian roulette.


21 posted on 12/14/2018 6:15:42 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Better do something quickly ... depending on the National Health Service is not a good option as they will not evaluate out as “economically viable” ... NHS, where people go to die.


22 posted on 12/14/2018 6:19:27 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Start using cash and checks or the elite class and bankers will make "cashless" the norm.)
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To: oldasrocks

Now, now...


23 posted on 12/14/2018 6:24:33 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

It’s a cultural thing, you know. Who are we to judge?

It is any wonder that the middle-east seems to be forever damned to live in conflict and rage? It’s in the genes, you know.


24 posted on 12/14/2018 6:28:21 PM PST by adorno
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To: Ouderkirk

She’s awesome.

She says what we all think and everyone else is afraid to say.


25 posted on 12/14/2018 6:30:46 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: eccentric
They would consider abortion and selective IVF before artificial insemination from a non-carrier?!?!?! smh

Abortion is haram, even if continuing the pregnancy would kill the mother and child.

Wonderful religion, islam.

26 posted on 12/14/2018 6:32:52 PM PST by null and void (We live in interesting times, but nobody's interested.)
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To: MeganC

+1


27 posted on 12/14/2018 6:46:03 PM PST by steel_resolve (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

No, because Webb was born in Arkansas but her mother came from Hell...I mean Chicago.


28 posted on 12/14/2018 6:53:42 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Explains the rabid violent Middle East and Islam.


29 posted on 12/14/2018 6:59:06 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Mooslims don’t like to share estates when patriarchs die, so they have their grandchildren marry each other to keep it all in the family.

Mooslims are actually the inbred idiots that “Hillbillies” are alleged to be.


30 posted on 12/14/2018 7:48:04 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Plus, in a tribal society, marrying inside the tribe is necessary. It’s not just that they marry cousins, it’s that the cousin must be the father’s sibling’s child.


31 posted on 12/14/2018 7:54:57 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Ouderkirk

Is there anything she’s wrong about?


32 posted on 12/14/2018 8:03:27 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: MeganC

It is actually worse than that. There’s a bad tendency to MULTI-GENERATIONAL cousin marriage.

There are several factors pushing it.

When you marry a father’s brother’s daughter, she doesn’t have to veil in front of in-laws and family because they’re all legal guardians.

Your cousins are the only people you can both marry and go out in public with - i.e. date.

Since families tend to live together with paternal kin, she remains close to or next door to Mom, Dad and brothers - so she can actually get help and support from them instead of being at her husband’s mercy.

And there really isn’t a bride-price when cousins marry, whereas you have to pay for a bride you’re not related to. No money changes hands, either, when two relatives exchange two daughters so that each of their sons has a free bride. Thus economics is a MAJOR determinant. The next generation has cousins prone to marry each other, the very intertwined family tree making bad recessives likely to pop up.


33 posted on 12/14/2018 8:30:09 PM PST by tbw2
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Chelsea was born in Arkansas, but her mother is from Illinois. Have they determined who her father was? Probably an Arkansas native in any case.


34 posted on 12/14/2018 8:46:01 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: hanamizu

“But I think of her when I read stories like this.”
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My husband related a story about a personal experience that took place while he was in college after his first stint in the military.

Where talking almost 35-38 years ago.... a young Muslim girl was in one of his math classes. Apparently she was extremely smart...I mean EXTREMELY SMART....

She brought him some home-made cookies and they talked about a lot of math stuff... she gave him her home # at some point...

Shortly after that he called her at the house to see if he could meet with her to study about an upcoming test...

Well, one of her brothers answered the phone. Merciful Maude. What took place next blew his mind... Several other brothers apparently got on the line asking him why he was calling, how he met her, how he got her number.... you can imagine the drill...

And... she dropped out of college... as in he never saw her again on campus... he said he couldn’t understand what had happened...

This was before he even understood about Islam. It’s one of those moments that haunts him...knowing now how the women are viewed and used.... he thinks she probably thought since she was in America she was going to be granted the freedom of a relationship, even if it was only a relationship based on studying math...

I told him that it wasn’t his fault nor was it her fault. She was being groomed to be a wife worthy of a good marriage to some Muslim. He mentions her every now and then, wondering if she’s even alive.

He figures if he never called she may have been able to stay in college and be spared having to go back to her homeland. I remind him that she was under the control of her brothers because in her faith she was still property. With her father dead, her brothers more or less owned her.

She was only in college to enable herself to earn a good income in the homeland to be handed over to her brothers. Back then, there was no question at all: She *would* stay single and give them the monies she earned until they saw fit to get her married.

If she’s looking for companionship and reached out to an American who was prior military they were probably freaking out and figured it was time to just get her married and by that I mean married in the homeland to someone of their faith.

Poor girl.


35 posted on 12/14/2018 8:54:53 PM PST by Notthereyet (NotThereYet)
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To: Ouderkirk

Ann Barnhardt absolutely rocks.


36 posted on 12/14/2018 8:58:11 PM PST by Notthereyet (NotThereYet)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Multiple generations of 1st Cousin marriages—recommended by the Koran, and practiced by many (possibly a majority of) Muslims—has a price.


37 posted on 12/14/2018 9:45:22 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: eccentric

I know. Horrible. Why not use third party gametes (donor eggs or sperm)? But no, they would rather make 10 embryos and leave most to die. Selfish.


38 posted on 12/14/2018 9:48:28 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: odawg
No, not 20%, more like 70%. Seriously.
39 posted on 12/14/2018 9:48:30 PM PST by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: tbw2

In some of the pacific islands, where the men were often promiscuous, the uncle was the benefactor of the children and not the husband of the mother. Since paternity couldn’t be trusted, the uncle knew his genes were safely within his sister’s children.

This seems like another version of that.


40 posted on 12/14/2018 9:52:09 PM PST by Yaelle
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