Posted on 07/17/2018 3:09:08 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
Tesloop, a Tesla-only shuttle service based in Southern California, recently had a Model S reach 400,000 miles on the odometer and gave an account of how it is holding up.
Tesloop has incurred a combined maintenance cost of roughly $19,000 or about $0.05/mile. This cost breaks down to $6,700 for general vehicle repairs and $12,200 for regularly scheduled maintenance.
(Excerpt) Read more at electrek.co ...
20k on the oil, oh my!
Better lucky than good!
The second battery pack replacement happened at 324,000 miles and Tesloop says it experienced a much more aggressive battery degradation of ~22%. Tesla said that there was an issue with the pack: Diagnostics show the high voltage battery assembly is not functioning appropriately. Removed and replaced the high voltage battery assembly. Replaced with a 90kw permanent battery replacement. Pushed updated firmware to ensure proper communications. Upon completion, function test was performed to confirm concern has been rectified.
And how much is the tax payer paid subsidy for all of it?
A very good question???
Every time I crank up, an idiot light comes on. It tells me I need to change oil.
I actually change it way too often, full synthetic at 3000 miles and usually sooner.
The problem is I am getting old enough and arthritic enough that I can no longer get under the car to drain the oil. No problem as I bought a vacuum operated unit which sucks the oil out through the dipstick tube.
After a bit of figuring it out, I can now get it all out that way. The oil filter is very easy to get to.
Apparently the car knows when you unscrew the oil drain plug and resets itself. Since I don’t touch it, the light keeps telling me to change oil
I would be surprised, given that various government subsidies for his cars has been about $5 billion by now (assuming some haven’t been hidden) if the maintenance costs aren’t also subsidized somehow.
You can have a fair assessment of operating costs while the government has ifs fingers on one side of the scales.
Actually, with the new synthetics, the 5000 mile oil change is a myth. In the old days, engines had a lot of blow by and therefor contaminated the oil badly. At 20,000 today, my oil still has it’s color, and BTW, only half a quart low, and no odor to it. Now if I was doing heavy hauling everyday up and down hills I might do it a little sooner. But everyday driving the engine is barely working. Of course heat will break down oil rather quickly. If engine ever overheats, change oil immediately.
See post 46.
Yeah, I know.
It is just that I grew up in the days when oil changes were 5000 miles and 3000 for any kind of heavy use.
Add in the fact that I have been finding 5 qt. jugs of premium brands on clearance. I have enough right now for 5 or 6 more changes and that does not include finding any more deals.
BS
400,000 miles in 3 years means they averaged 365 miles a day for 365 days a year.
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This car is in commercial service.
I hear for software upgrades you often must pay.
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Only if the upgrade activates a feature like Autopilot.
Since nobody is going to bother to read the article:
Tesloop has incurred a combined maintenance cost of roughly $19,000 or about $0.05/mile. This cost breaks down to $6,700 for general vehicle repairs and $12,200 for regularly scheduled maintenance. The Model S’ full service record is available here. The record includes comparable estimated costs of running the service with a Lincoln Town Car instead of a Model S or Mercedes GLS class instead of a Model X. Tesloop estimates that a Lincoln Town Car or Mercedes GLS class’ combined maintenance cost to be around $88,500 ($0.22/mile) and $98,900 ($0.25/mile) respectively over 400,000 miles.
You caught that too...!!
I've a vehicle..that I ride.
Costs me very little....Don't go far with her....but she's reliable.
Never has broke down...Limped a time or two though.
I think as a commercial customer they got a very good deal considering the warranty as you point out. They plan to put another 600,000 miles on it.
The entire thing is BS because how many people drive 400,000 in 3 years. Here it the truth of the matter. Most people in 3 years will drive 30,000 miles. But the battery will fail more as a relation to time than use. So 30-40 thousand miles = You need a new battery.
Battery life is also more based on time than usage. So the battery will fail no matter how many miles you drive.
But the battery will fail more as a relation to time than use.
Do you have anything that shows battery life use is time-dependent?
I have heard that it is the number of charging cycles?
IIRC the model P100D uses lithium-ion battery cells.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery#Battery_life
Manufacturers’ information typically specify lifespan in terms of the number of cycles (e.g., capacity dropping linearly to 80% over 500 cycles), with no mention of chronological age...
A 2015 study by Andreas Gutsch of the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology found that lithium-ion battery lifespan could vary by a factor of five, with some Li-ion cells losing 30% of their capacity after 1,000 cycles, and others having better capacity after 5,000 cycles.
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