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What If We Had Carpet Bombed Japanese Cities After Pearl Harbor?

Posted on 04/20/2018 9:55:26 AM PDT by ExpatCanuck

Just wondering if that would have put a halt to the Japanese aggression and given them a sense of what they were up against and what we were willing to do. Could it have saved thousands of American lives in the South Pacific? As an alternative history buff I’m curious about the opinions here.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: b29; doolittle; doolittleraid; japan; pearlharbor; wwii
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1 posted on 04/20/2018 9:55:26 AM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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We carpet bombed North Vietnam, how did that work out?


2 posted on 04/20/2018 9:57:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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With what? From where?


3 posted on 04/20/2018 9:57:42 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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Didn’t have the logistics available to do that.


4 posted on 04/20/2018 9:57:45 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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We would still have went in there to help them rebuild. So, you might think that by not carpet bombing Japan, it just made it easier for us to go in there and help them out.


5 posted on 04/20/2018 9:57:57 AM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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They were out of range until the B29 was completed and even then, engine failures were a constant problem.
Capturing Iwo Jima was what made it possible.


6 posted on 04/20/2018 9:58:37 AM PDT by Zathras
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We didn’t have the range.


7 posted on 04/20/2018 9:59:07 AM PDT by Mercat
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Shangri-La


8 posted on 04/20/2018 9:59:26 AM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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We initially had no bases close enough to Japan to deploy heavy bombers. In the 1940’s there was no mid-air refueling capability. later in the war, we were able to move heavy bombers such as B-29s and B-24s close enough to be in range of Japanese cities.


9 posted on 04/20/2018 9:59:27 AM PDT by Flick Lives (F*ck the FBI)
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great point. I hate woulda-coulda-shoulda!


10 posted on 04/20/2018 9:59:30 AM PDT by gr8eman (Since God has been banished from our classrooms, Satan has filled the void.)
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To: dfwgator

IF we had dropped the same tonnage in bowling balls, as we did bombs in NV, we’d have stopped them.

Bombs moved dirt and they moved it back.

They would never have been able to move bowling balls out of the way.


11 posted on 04/20/2018 9:59:50 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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Every expert historian I’ve ever read about tells us that the Pacific conflict would have dragged on for many years later if it were not for Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

Carpet bombing would have been futile.


12 posted on 04/20/2018 9:59:56 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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We had to drop TWO nuclear bombs to get them to surrender. They were dropped days apart and they still weren’t sure


13 posted on 04/20/2018 10:00:00 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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The B-17’s at Clark might have been able to bomb southern Japan at extended range if they hadn’t been blown up the 1st day.


14 posted on 04/20/2018 10:00:07 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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From air bases located where? Bomber range is what?

Oh, you want carrier based air strikes? How many carriers you want to use?

Nope. That would not have happened until we got the bases and bombers.


15 posted on 04/20/2018 10:00:11 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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not possible at the time. did not have tools to do so.

that is why Doolittle had to fly b-25 off the deck of the Hornet to bomb tokyo, et al. lack of a long range bomber, and an airfield to fly them from.

the “what-if” is fun to debate over a beer, but is essentially a waste of time.


16 posted on 04/20/2018 10:00:22 AM PDT by QualityMan (The Adults are back in town)
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Even after Fatman and Little Boy, a lot of the Japanese still didn’t want to surrender.

Some even suggested bumping off Hirohito and making him a “martyr” and continuing the fight.


17 posted on 04/20/2018 10:00:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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In 1941-42 our strategic bomber force was small, massively engaged in Europe. And frankly amateurish and learning the ropes.

After years of hard won experience in Europe, and with FAR better aircraft in the B-29, Japan was very difficult to bomb with the same effectiveness.


18 posted on 04/20/2018 10:01:03 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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What If We Had Carpet Bombed Japanese Cities After Pearl Harbor?

We did - 1944-1945. Before then we had no way of getting bombers to Japan.

19 posted on 04/20/2018 10:01:22 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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We did what we could:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_Raid


20 posted on 04/20/2018 10:02:16 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm using my wife's account.)
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