Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Russia Feared Hitler's Panzer Tanks. But They Might Have Feared Who Led Them Even More.
http://nationalinterest.org/ ^ | 3/18/18

Posted on 03/21/2018 4:10:08 PM PDT by BBell

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-91 next last
To: BBell

http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/soviet/soviet_KV-2.php And if you were German, you feared this tank.


61 posted on 03/22/2018 4:53:54 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jmacusa
The interesting thing about the T 34 was it was based on a design by Walther Christie, an American. He tried to get the US Army interested in it in the early ‘30s but they weren't impressed by it. The Russians were however and it revoutionized tank design. Wide tracks, low center of gravity and sloped frontal armor and the Russians could mass produce them like crazy. Surprised the hell out of the Germans when they first encountered it.

Much on that here:

Is it true that the T-34 was built in the United States during ...

They did borrow their suspension system from the American inventor Christie. It gave them better cross-country speed and the ability to travel better on soggy ground and snow. The Soviets also added sloped armour. See: Christie suspension - Wikipedia The T-34 was better than most German tanks and much better than US tanks. The Soviets manufactured the T-34 is massive numbers. They made over 84,000 of them and simply overwhelmed the Germans. See: T-34 - Wikipedia...It was not until the introduction of Pershings with their thick armor and 90mm M3 gun that the T-34-85s became fun-food for the U.S. - Alan Blair, former Software Architect for a Number of Military System at General Dynamics

HOWEVER, it was thanks to this American gentleman [Albert Kahn] that the Soviet war making industry could produce so many T-34s:...the T-34 was invented and manufactured deep inside the Soviet Motherland but the factories had been built by American architects and engineers, and much of the machinery had been imported from America in the 1930s.- Duc Quyen, World War II fanatic

62 posted on 03/22/2018 5:05:48 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: BBell
Condensed??

Russia Feared Hitler's Panzer Tanks. But They Might Have Feared Who Led Them Even More.

Nah; the REALLY bad dude was in North Africa.

Seems like he was guilty of writing a book or something...

63 posted on 03/22/2018 5:22:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: daniel1212

How are the Amish faring in Russia these days?


64 posted on 03/22/2018 5:28:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: colorado tanker

If my memory is correct the Russians were testing their version of the Saturn V, the tests were spectacular failures.


65 posted on 03/22/2018 6:06:04 AM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (All hands on deck/ suit up!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Elsie
How are the Amish faring in Russia these days?

Since they refrain from using modern technology, then the threat of them flying 747's into large buildings is considered to be low. However, since they are known to engage in violence (spanking) against children then like those "Greatest Generation" neanderthals, and certain forms of micro-aggressions (some on the molecular level), they have been placed on a national insecurity Watch-List.

66 posted on 03/22/2018 6:36:13 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: Fhios

“Technologically the U.S looted more from Germany than the U.S.S.R. Way more. Rocketry, Jet engines, Nuclear, encryption, radar, radio, medical.”

It was policy to keep as much technical material as possible out of Soviet hands.

When Japan fell the US took possession of a few I-400s, the massive sub that had a float plane hanger. When the Soviets let be be known they were sending technicians to inspect the subs the US towed them out to deep water and sunk them.


67 posted on 03/22/2018 7:57:52 AM PDT by Rebelbase ( Hillary, DNC, DOJ and FBI colluded with a British National to influence the 2016 Pres. election)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: YogicCowboy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk7n3sWdhKo


68 posted on 03/22/2018 8:02:58 AM PDT by Rebelbase ( Hillary, DNC, DOJ and FBI colluded with a British National to influence the 2016 Pres. election)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: daniel1212; All

Ran across an article last week about a family in Belarus who recover and rehabilitate into working condition Soviet and German tanks buried and sunk in the swamps and forests of what was western Russia.

The salvagers who raise WWII Tanks from the dead

‘Titanic tank battles were once fought on what is now Belarus. Now, a dedicated team of salvagers scour marsh and forest to find these forgotten reminders of World War Two.’

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20180312-the-salvagers-who-raise-world-war-two-tanks-from-the-dead


69 posted on 03/22/2018 8:18:30 AM PDT by Rebelbase ( Hillary, DNC, DOJ and FBI colluded with a British National to influence the 2016 Pres. election)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: Empireoftheatom48

That is my recollection too. Seem to recall a picture or video but don’t have time to track it down right now.


70 posted on 03/22/2018 9:32:26 AM PDT by colorado tanker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: daniel1212

It’s an enduring shame that the country that practically invented the car, and the assembly line method of mass production sent it’s son’s to war in a tank that was , quite frankly, a piece of crap. I’ve known men who served in armored units in WW2 and they were in awe, and dread of German tanks. And disgusted by the Sherman.


71 posted on 03/22/2018 12:52:21 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: colorado tanker

It was the N1 rocket 4 launches 4 failures. One of the rockets climbed a little but then fell back on the launch pad creating the most powerful conventional explosions ever recorded.


72 posted on 03/22/2018 1:03:21 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (All hands on deck/ suit up!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: daniel1212
 
Clip - Clop
 
Clip - Clop
 
Clip - Clop
 
Clip - Clop
 
Clip - Clop
 
Clip - Clop
 
Clip - Clop
 
Clip - Clop
 
BANG !!!
 
Clip - Clop
 
Clip - Clop
 
Clip - Clop
 
Clip - Clop
 
Clip - Clop
 
Clip - Clop
 
Clip - Clop
 
Clip - Clop
 
 
AMISH drive-by......
 

73 posted on 03/22/2018 1:11:46 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies]

To: shanover

I wanted the Nazis to go far enough where the Russians decided to do away with Stalin and the Bolsheviks, then turn around and defeat the Nazis. It’s would have been the best-case scenario. And I believe, had Hitler taken Moscow, Stalin might not have survived the outcome.


74 posted on 03/22/2018 1:14:12 PM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Rebelbase

VERY interesting!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-400-class_submarine


75 posted on 03/22/2018 1:23:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: jmacusa

I am one of the few who knows what you are talking about. Yes, we could have had the T 34 but we opted for the M4 Sherman. There were probably lot of politics involved in defense acquisition and there always will be. BTW, Christie also tried to sell it to the British and French among others and they all turned it down.


76 posted on 03/22/2018 2:56:51 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 58 | View Replies]

To: Elsie

Very condensed. If you were to write a biography about his whole life it would be a decently long one. Rommel would not be who he was without men like Graf Strachwitz. Rommel’s tactics took disciplined men to implement.


77 posted on 03/22/2018 3:02:46 PM PDT by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies]

To: vladimir998

I just watched the whole movie. I was good and kind of strange at the same time.


78 posted on 03/22/2018 3:36:04 PM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: jmacusa
It’s an enduring shame that the country that practically invented the car, and the assembly line method of mass production sent it’s son’s to war in a tank that was , quite frankly, a piece of crap. I’ve known men who served in armored units in WW2 and they were in awe, and dread of German tanks. And disgusted by the Sherman.

Yes, plus helping (from materials to vehicles to education) the Soviets so much that they became an advancing army who got to Berlin first, and which kept multitudes of abandoned GIs after the war ended, and greatly infiltrated our government, resulting in continuing proxy wars, cold or hot.

The choice of the Sherman was likely partly due to logistics/ its shipping size and weight, but maybe we should have obtained a flood of T-34S in return for all the help given to the Soviets.

79 posted on 03/22/2018 3:50:42 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: Rebelbase
Ran across an article last week about a family in Belarus who recover and rehabilitate into working condition Soviet and German tanks buried and sunk in the swamps and forests of what was western Russia.

Expensive job. The metal recyclers around here would love to get their hands on them. As would cars for kids. Tanks for tots.

80 posted on 03/22/2018 3:54:21 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-91 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson