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FR poll: The right to keep and bear what kind of weapons are protected by the 2nd Amendment?
Me | 02/19/18 | Simon Green

Posted on 02/19/2018 9:26:27 AM PST by Simon Green

I'll keep things simple for the purposes of this poll. If it were up to you, what sorts of weapons would a law-abiding American be able to purchase with little or no paperwork?

1. Absolutely anything.
2. Anything short of WMDs (nuclear, chemical, biological).
3. Anything capable of being wielded by a single person (up to and including grenades, rocket launchers, MANPADs, etc), but none of the above.
4. Any firearm including full auto, SBRs, silenced weapons, but none of the above.
5. The current status quo at the federal level, but none of the above.
6. The current status quo, but ban "assault" weapons and "high capacity" magazines.
7. Even more restrictive (please explain).


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I'll cast the first vote: #4.
1 posted on 02/19/2018 9:26:27 AM PST by Simon Green
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#1 “Shall not be infringed” is very clear.

Anything from a .22 to a B52


2 posted on 02/19/2018 9:28:36 AM PST by Joe Dallas
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To: Simon Green

#1.


3 posted on 02/19/2018 9:29:24 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: Simon Green

With little to no paperwork....a shotgun (of any variety). The hunter or farmer group aren’t the type for mass shootings.


4 posted on 02/19/2018 9:30:18 AM PST by pepsionice
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#1. If you can afford it. 🍿🍻🇺🇸
5 posted on 02/19/2018 9:30:43 AM PST by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Simon Green

#1 Absolutely anything. However, the government is not obligated to sell you a B-52 or a tank that was developed using tax dollars.


6 posted on 02/19/2018 9:31:04 AM PST by libertylover (Kurt Schlicter: "They wonder why they got Trump. They are why they got Trump")
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To: Joe Dallas

It depends on which state you live in, on how many of your God Given Constitutional Rights are violated.


7 posted on 02/19/2018 9:31:10 AM PST by davidb56
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That is the flawed list, and doesn’t respect the Second Amendment. If I had to put a measure on it, I would say that anything that the police can have, the citizens can have. I think that would respect the idea of the militia, and keep the real hard-core military weapons under tighter control.


8 posted on 02/19/2018 9:33:37 AM PST by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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Any weapon that can be carried and effectively used by an individual soldier or law enforcement officer. Armored vehicles, and anti-armor countermeasures as well. Since they are the potential threat, our defensive equipment should be of equal quality.


9 posted on 02/19/2018 9:34:09 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: davidb56

I would say #4, because Im not sure if manpads would be classified as “arms”.


10 posted on 02/19/2018 9:34:44 AM PST by davidb56
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To: Simon Green

In school, teachers told us 12” rulers were weapons.


11 posted on 02/19/2018 9:34:52 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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#4

I would add that only citizens and legal residents should not be allowed to possess any firearms.

I would that citizens should allowed to possess any weapon that law enforcement agencies are allowed to have.


12 posted on 02/19/2018 9:35:21 AM PST by WASCWatch
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Good point. I was under the impression “MANPADS” were what our CONgress wears under their fancy tax paid suits, to prevent noticeable “leakage”.


13 posted on 02/19/2018 9:36:52 AM PST by davidb56
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To: Simon Green

King Georege did not consider muskets in the hands of farmers to be a threat to his regime in the colonies. He wanted to get those privately held cannons! ... #4, Alex


14 posted on 02/19/2018 9:37:21 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Simon Green

Between #3 and #4

US v Miller said (correctly) that the 2nd amendment protects weapons that support the function of a militia. Anything usable by a militia to attack legit military targets should be protected. So definitely anything an 11B is issued.


15 posted on 02/19/2018 9:38:05 AM PST by thorvaldr
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“...citizens and legal residents should not be allowed...”

A little mistake there???

#4 is fine with me...


16 posted on 02/19/2018 9:38:25 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: Simon Green
Keep and Bear means to own and carry.
If you can carry it, you can own it.

Here is an interview of Justice Scalia by Mike Wallace in 2012

WALLACE: What about… a weapon that can fire a hundred shots in a minute?

SCALIA: We’ll see. Obviously the Amendment does not apply to arms that cannot be hand-carried — it’s to keep and “bear,” so it doesn’t apply to cannons — but I suppose here are hand-held rocket launchers that can bring down airplanes, that will have to be decided.

WALLACE: How do you decide that if you’re a textualist?

SCALIA: Very carefully.

17 posted on 02/19/2018 9:39:16 AM PST by GregoTX
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Any weapon that can be carried, transported and operated by a single person as these are “arms”. Weapons that require more than one person to operate, or can not be carried by a single person are “ordnance”.

I am of the opinion that the 2nd directly permits arms and is silent on ordnance.


18 posted on 02/19/2018 9:39:27 AM PST by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt)
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In the original intent of the 2nd Amendment, people were authorized all sorts of “arms”, from swords to their own cannon-armed warships (necessary if the concept of privateers and “letters of marque and reprisal” were to have any meaning). Even in civilian life, private merchant ships had cannon to repel pirates.

I’d go with #4, but with one additional provision: that ANY arm authorized for use in the US by “law enforcement” becomes legal for possession by citizens. Including any arm possessed by any security/bodyguard agency protecting any “VIP”. If they want to supply police with armored vehicles with .50 cal machineguns, fine, but the same equipment thereupon becomes legal for civilians.


19 posted on 02/19/2018 9:39:27 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Simon Green

#1.

Duh!


20 posted on 02/19/2018 9:40:07 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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