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Fox News Program Host: “Did You Ever See a Long-Form?”
The Post & Email ^ | 1/8/2018 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 01/09/2018 6:43:48 AM PST by Elderberry

On Saturday evening’s edition of FNC’s “Justice with Judge Jeanine,” former Westchester County, NY District Attorney and judge Jeanine Pirro asked one of her guests whether or not he had “ever seen a ‘long-form,'” undoubtedly referring to the “long-form birth certificate” of former White House occupant Barack Hussein Obama.

Pirro’s two guests for the segment, former Secret Service agent and former Republican Maryland congressional candidate Dan Bongino and former Bill Clinton staffer and current Democratic strategist David Goodfriend, were discussing the captioned “economic successes” of Trump’s first year in office when Goodfriend attempted to make the case that President Trump was “bonkers” for claiming that his Oval Office predecessor “was never a citizen.”

Article II, Section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution requires that the president be a “natural born Citizen,” which most Americans interpret to mean, at a minimum, “born in the United States.” During Obama’s 2007-2008 presidential campaign, credible news reports stated his birthplace as Indonesia and Kenya, some of which were later altered to say that Obama was “born in Hawaii,” as he claims.

At 5:19 in the video clip from the show, Pirro vehemently but possibly unwittingly opened the line of conversation by telling Goodfriend that she thought it was “bonkers” that Obama had called Trump a “quasi-Adolph Hitler” in a speech in Chicago last month.

At 5:28, Goodfriend responded, “It’s almost as ‘bonkers’ as Donald Trump saying that Obama was never a citizen,” referencing Trump’s 2011 public demands for the Obama White House to release his “long-form,” or more detailed, birth certificate to prove his eligibility to serve as president and re-seek the office in 2012.

As has often been the case, Goodfriend conflated the term “citizen” with “natural born Citizen,” a distinction set forth in the Constitution only for the nation’s chief executive.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Local News; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: birther; bongino; certifigate; chicago; danbongino; davidgoodfriend; hawaii; illinois; indonesia; jeaninepirro; jeanninepirro; judgejeanine; judgejeannine; kenya; maryland; newyork; obama
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Neatly stated.


21 posted on 01/09/2018 7:15:03 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: MMaschin
In short, there are indications that the Obama Certificate of Live Birth released by the White House in April 2011 may be a manufactured document or perhaps even an outright forgery. But without examining the original document housed at the Hawaii Department of Health, there can be no absolute certainty.

Can a Certificate of Live Birth be used to obtain a passport?

22 posted on 01/09/2018 7:17:17 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: RS_Rider

Back in 2007m before the election I demanded that he Missouri Sec of State provide me a copy of the DNC certification that so declared Obama qualified to be a candidate for president. She provided a copy of the DNC form that so stated. I asked the SoS if that is all that was needed- a partisan declaration that a proposed candidate meets the qualifications- she responded by sending me all of the certificate for all of the candidates on the MO general ballot for president= all signed by the respective parties chairs-no independent verification required at all.

Too bad every one can’t verify important claims by self-endorsement huh?


23 posted on 01/09/2018 7:19:36 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Lurkinanloomin

LOL! Wouldn’t that be a blast to have Odumbo deported back to Kenya!


24 posted on 01/09/2018 7:20:20 AM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Tenacious 1
“Did you (Obama) lie about where you were born and take advantage of benefits in college or are you lying now?”

Exactly.

25 posted on 01/09/2018 7:25:04 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Islam delenda est.)
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To: Elderberry

Bookmark


26 posted on 01/09/2018 7:25:30 AM PST by COUNTrecount (If only Harvey Weinstein's bathrobe could talk.)
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To: Yaelle

Obama concedes he’s not a NBC, in Obama vs. Keyes 2004 Debate

https://www.thepostemail.com/2009/10/15/obama-concedes-hes-not-a-nbc-in-obama-vs-keyes-2004-debate/


27 posted on 01/09/2018 7:37:45 AM PST by Garvin (Always remember folks, kill a commie for mommy ~ Semper Fi, Mac!)
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To: AppyPappy

Then why did Alvin Onaka twice refuse to issue a certified verification of Obama having a legally-valid HI BC?

There are 2 verifications that are touted as ending the questions. But the seals on those verifications are not the seal of Alvin Onaka. They are the seal of the HDOH Director, which is defined by statute as 2 1/4” in diameter and having a STAR between the upper and lower banks of words around the perimeter. Onaka’s seal is smaller and has a DOT rather than a star between the banks. I had a friend photograph the seal on the AZ “verification” next to a ruler. It is 2 1/4”.

The seal that Fuddy used on those “verifications” doesn’t certify anything; by statute that seal MUST be used next to the Director’s signature when used to certify/verify documents, and Fuddy’s signature is nowhere on those “verifications”.

So why did she use that seal, when it didn’t certify anything without her signature? Or why didn’t she use her signature next to the seal, so that it really would have been lawfully certified?

The only explanation that makes sense is that she put her seal without her signature, so that the world would be deceived into thinking Onaka certified those documents and confirmed a valid HI BC for Obama. When in reality he refused to issue a certified verification of the existence of a valid HI BC for Obama - and the statutes only allow that refusal if there IS NO valid HI BC.

IOW, Onaka twice legally confirmed that there IS NO legally-valid HI BC for Obama. But Loretta Fuddy illegally used her seal to cover up that fact and deceive the world into thinking Onaka did the EXACT OPPOSITE.

Onaka gave us our answer, which is clear as a bell when you remove the interference from Loretta Fuddy - who also illegally (and in a coordinated effort with Obama’s legal team) conspired to restrict the public from access to certified copies of their own STANDARD (long-form) birth certificates, which is mandated by both statute and the HDOH Administrative Rules.

Furthermore, I asked to see any records at the HDOH that defined what would be on certified copies of standard birth certificates and was told that no records existed. So then the HDOH posted a “memo” that was created that very same day (the day Obama released the online image) claiming that many years ago it had been decided they would include only the ABBREVIATED BC info when a STANDARD BC was requested. I had already been given a response earlier saying that no such memo existed. And the policy itself is not allowed to be in effect if not published and posted to the HDOH website.

Loretta Fuddy illegally conspired with Obama’s attorneys to break Hawaii law. In addition, Fuddy deliberately deceived the AZ and KS SOS’s into thinking that Onaka gave them a certified “verification” when in fact Onaka refused to certify anything. That is document fraud, and it stares us right in our faces.


28 posted on 01/09/2018 7:42:37 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Elderberry.
At 5:19 in the video clip from the show, Pirro vehemently but possibly unwittingly opened the line of conversation by telling Goodfriend that she thought it was “bonkers” that Obama had called Trump a “quasi-Adolph Hitler” in a speech in Chicago last month.

29 posted on 01/09/2018 7:49:42 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: AppyPappy

His mother did not have enough age - years living in U.S. to confer her U.S. citizenship to Obama Jr. Obama Sr. was married in Kenya and the U.S. does not honor polygamy. So they were never married.

Conflicting immigration and family laws left a legal question whether a single mother with newborn could pass her citizenship due to point above.


30 posted on 01/09/2018 7:52:34 AM PST by RideForever
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To: butterdezillion

I should clarify: My request for the HDOH records stating what would be on a certified standard BC was made and answered many months before Fuddy, conspiring with Bob Bauer, tried to pass off as real a 1995? “memo” saying that only info on the short-form BC would be included when a certified standard BC was requested.

IOW, months earlier the HDOH had said there were no memos/documents describing what would be on a certified standard BC. It was not just a mistake/misstatement, because by HI statute they HAVE to include on their standard BC’s ALL of the information required by the CDC - and I read them the riot act for trying to claim at that time that it was OK for them to deny access to standard BC’s AS DEFINED IN HI STATUTE (including all the info required by the CDC, for birth certificates).

And then, the same day as Obama releases his online image, they put on their website a so-called 1995 memo saying they’ll only give certified copies of ABBREVIATED BC’s when asked for a STANDARD BC - and the creation date of that document is the same day as Obama posted his online image. They had already, months before, denied to me that such a document existed.


31 posted on 01/09/2018 7:53:33 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: RideForever

“His mother did not have enough age - years living in U.S. to confer her U.S. citizenship to Obama Jr.”

So an 18 year-old woman can’t give birth to an American? Amazing.


32 posted on 01/09/2018 7:53:58 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: Elderberry

Did You Ever See a Long-Form?”
ALL of his records are sealed for a reason.


33 posted on 01/09/2018 7:55:17 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
his 17-year old mother could only confer US citizenship on US soil.

IIRC, she couldn't even do that at the time. She needed to be 18 at the time of his birth in order to confer citizenship according to the law in place at the time.

34 posted on 01/09/2018 7:59:01 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: butterdezillion

In addition, Onaka has since dropped a red flag for those who know enough about the system to catch it.

In a public conference he spoke about the online image that Obama posted, using the claims on it to explain the business process of how birth certificates are created. He noted that the BC# posted (10641) shows that Obama’s BC is found in the 10th volume, on page 641.

Anybody who knows about the HDOH volumes knows there is no such thing as page 641. They only include 500 BC’s in each volume, as HDOH Director Fukino publicly stated.

IOW, Onaka publicly stated that Obama’s BC is on a non-existent page.

Another red flag by Alvin Onaka.

Why won’t we ever believe this guy when he tells us the truth?


35 posted on 01/09/2018 8:00:07 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Ouderkirk

Thanks for the correction.


36 posted on 01/09/2018 8:01:58 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: Elderberry
Obama's long form birth certificate he posted on the WH website back in 2009 (?) was fraudulent and a bad forgery.

I have personally downloaded the file from the WH website and tore it apart in Adobe Illustrator.

I found 11 separate layers had been manufactured and manipulated into a composite that was purported to be the definitive answer to the questions about Obama's birth place.

Whoever put it together was an amateur. They failed to "flatten" the layers into one image when they converted their work to a PDF and posted on the WH website. That resulted in every graphics person in the world being able to figure out very quickly that is was a forgery.

If the person would have flatten the layers, the file would have been much more difficult to tear apart. As it was, this person left the door wide open for others to see that it was a made-up document, not a photocopy of the one page legal LFBC document on file in the courthouse in Hawaii that the WH claimed it was.

Any other person who presented a forgery as bad as this one was to the public as an official state of Hawaii public record, would have been arrested and sent to jail for forgery and fraud. But not one peep from Obama's DOJ about it.

So Trump and Joe Arpaio were not wrong about the LFBC being a forgery. It's just that no one in authority did their jobs and investigated this obvious farce.

Obama may or may not have been born in the US, but his attempt to document the birth resulted in even more questions that need asking, like who forged the LFBC and who directed the forgery?

And why did they have to forge it if Obama was, in fact, born in Hawaii? My guess is, they had to because he wasn't born here.

37 posted on 01/09/2018 8:02:28 AM PST by HotHunt
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To: AppyPappy

So an 18 year-old woman can’t give birth to an American? Amazing.
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Even more amazing is that she was 17 when she conceived the little bastard, making Obama, Sr. a rapist. How did you miss THAT?


38 posted on 01/09/2018 8:07:33 AM PST by RideForever
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To: Elderberry

Goodfriend was a total and complete tool on this show. He insulted Bongino a number of times, unnecessarily.


39 posted on 01/09/2018 8:07:42 AM PST by cld51860 (Volo pro veritas)
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To: RideForever

Obama Sr isn’t his dad. Frank Marshall Davis is more likely the one.


40 posted on 01/09/2018 8:13:27 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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