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National Security, Rare Earth Elements & The Thorium Problem
YouTube ^ | 7-27-2014 | gordonmcdowell

Posted on 12/21/2017 6:13:19 PM PST by ak267

"The only operating rare earth mine in the United States sends all of their valuable resources to China for processing. Congress does not know this. They think this [mining] company is supplying the U.S. value chain, [and] is supplying the military. It is in-fact, the opposite. They are part of the Chinese monopoly. They're taking powder and shipping it to China, and it comes back as a magnet, or an alloy, or a bolt-on component." - Jim Kennedy

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: china; minerals; thorium

1 posted on 12/21/2017 6:13:20 PM PST by ak267
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To: ak267

The biggest crime is that we ship metallurgical grade coal to China by the freighterload and then buy the steel back from China. Except for regulatory compliance, surely it would be cheaper to use the coal here, and produce the steel hear saving two trans-pacific shipping costs.


2 posted on 12/21/2017 6:20:00 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

But that would dry up the glut of shipping containers.


3 posted on 12/21/2017 6:23:41 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (All posts are /s, unless otherwise specified.)
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To: AndyJackson

“...surely it would be cheaper to use the coal here, and produce the steel hear saving two trans-pacific shipping costs....”

Nope...highly unlikely when one considers the cost of meeting all the EPA, OSHA and all the other govt regulations and red tape. FWIW, Odongo closed down our last lead mine before he left office. IF we ever get in a real “shooting war”, we’ll have to buy lead from the Chinese to make more bullets.


4 posted on 12/21/2017 6:25:21 PM PST by lgjhn23 (It's easy to be liberal when you're dumber than a box of rocks.)
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To: AndyJackson
Except for regulatory compliance, surely it would be cheaper to use the coal here, and produce the steel hear saving two trans-pacific shipping costs.

It depends on how much it would cost to ship iron ore and scrap steel from China to here vs. shipping coal from here to China then finished steel from China back here.

And don't call me Shirley.

5 posted on 12/21/2017 6:27:15 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: ak267
All I can say is get ready:


6 posted on 12/21/2017 7:18:49 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Conservatives should do daily affirmations: reading/repeating the 9th and 10th Amendments)
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To: ak267

What was the country a few years ago that was trying to corner the ‘rare earth’ elements?


7 posted on 12/21/2017 8:07:25 PM PST by GOPJ (EVERY hellhole in the world is run by self appointed 'elites'...think about THAT FBI traitors.)
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To: ak267

The Rare-Earth Crisis

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/423730/the-rare-earth-crisis/

The issue about “rare earths”? Extraction and refining.

They are largely common, but in very small concentrations. There are hazards to mining and extracting some types.

The demand is driven by growing production of wind turbine motors and electric cars.

China has the manufacturing edge right now.


8 posted on 12/21/2017 8:08:06 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: GOPJ

China has it locked up at this moment but about a decade ago an Australian mining firm tried to open up Indonesia. That country has sizable rare earth deposits and the Ozzie firm spent a billion dollars developing the site and necessary infrastructure.

Once the enviros got wind of it they staged major protests and intimidated the Indonesian government to back down and rescind the permits. The company had to write off the entire project.


9 posted on 12/21/2017 9:27:19 PM PST by ak267
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To: lgjhn23

we’ll have to buy lead from the Chinese to make more bullets.

We get titanium from Russia which is also used to make rounds ... Back when, Clinton closed (or made it a park or some such) our largest deposit of rare earths.


10 posted on 12/22/2017 3:35:52 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Yo-Yo

Cheaper to import potatoes from China than Idaho ...


11 posted on 12/22/2017 3:36:52 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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