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This man discovered a dirty little secret that reinvented medicine
New York Post ^ | November 18, 2017 | Larry Getlen

Posted on 11/21/2017 5:06:55 AM PST by x1stcav

At the time, the medical community was unaware of the existence of germs and didn’t know how infectious diseases were passed on. As a result, cleanliness was not a factor in surgery, leading to gruesome sights and harrowing results.

Surgeons — then regarded as low-status workers and often paid less than the men employed to pick lice off hospital beds — didn’t bother cleaning the blood and guts from surgical tables or their instruments between operations. No one in the operating theater wore gloves, and “it was not uncommon to see a medical student with shreds of flesh, gut or brains stuck to his clothing.”

Hospitals were so deadly that surgeries done at home — usually on one’s kitchen table — had a much greater survival rate than those done in a house of medicine.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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KEYWORDS: antiseptic; infection; jacktheripper; josephlister; medicine; surgery
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Interesting bit about the evolution of modern medicine and surgical practices.
1 posted on 11/21/2017 5:06:55 AM PST by x1stcav
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related:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3606113/posts


2 posted on 11/21/2017 5:11:16 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Thanks. I wonder what I’m doing wrong when I search? Missed the completely.


3 posted on 11/21/2017 5:20:45 AM PST by x1stcav (We have the guns. Do we have the will?)
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One thing they don't mention is that Lister had a predecessor, Ignaz Semmelweiss, a Hungarian doctor.

Semmelweiss discovered that washing his hands in a "chlorinated lime" solution (calcium hypochlorite, closely related to bleach) between examining his post-partum obstetrical patients drastically cut the "childbed fever" death rate. "Childbed fever" killed so many mothers in that day that women were afraid to have their babies in the hospital. "Childbed fever" was rare in home births, but common in hospitals.

For this, Semmelweiss was hounded, cursed, and ostracized. He ended up in an insane asylum, where he was beaten to death by a guard.

Because, as everyone knew, "childbed fever" was caused by bad air, or was simply a curse women had to live (or die) with. That was the "settled science" of Semmelweiss' day.

Sound familiar?

4 posted on 11/21/2017 5:21:26 AM PST by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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You have to get lucky with FR. Have to think of all the right possible words and hope they are in the keywords that users added. It’s not your fault.


5 posted on 11/21/2017 5:28:56 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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I smell another attempt to build up another culture by claiming they “invented” something prior to some other. When it turns out INNOVATION is the real important part.

Sounds like this Hungarian (Austrian ethnic?) may have found out something but for whatever reason wasn’t able to “innovate” so that it became common practice. Lister did. Or at least, his British peers allowed it, whereas perhaps Hungarians failed to be so open.

(re-post from the older thread, which I accidentally focused on)


6 posted on 11/21/2017 5:36:15 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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You have to get lucky with FR. Have to think of all the right possible words and hope they are in the keywords that users added. It’s not your fault.

Actually that was an exact match word for word with a title search. I normally do a title search first then a title search using words from the middle of the title in case something was changed at the beginning or the end. So in this case, for instance, I would do a title search on the full title then the words dirty little secret. That usually does the trick and I rarely dupe anyone.

7 posted on 11/21/2017 5:47:44 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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“At the time, few in the medical community took him seriously, disbelieving that these invisible so-called “germs” existed.”

And so it goes today...


8 posted on 11/21/2017 5:51:06 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Thanks for the tip.


9 posted on 11/21/2017 5:53:49 AM PST by x1stcav (We have the guns. Do we have the will?)
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To: x1stcav

...and the $15 Band-Aid :)


10 posted on 11/21/2017 5:56:40 AM PST by relictele
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Do a title search not a keyword search


11 posted on 11/21/2017 6:00:24 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: x1stcav

As soon as I read the title of the article/post, the first thing that popped into my head was Dr. Joseph Lister. His is a fascinating story.


12 posted on 11/21/2017 6:03:15 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Ban pre-shredded cheese now! Make America Grate Again.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel; Repeal The 17th

This is why the Admin Mods insist on posters using the exact title of the linked article.


13 posted on 11/21/2017 6:05:39 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Ban pre-shredded cheese now! Make America Grate Again.)
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History of this sort always makes me appreciate how good we have it today.

Our problems are nothing compared to what people experienced a relatively short 150 years ago.


14 posted on 11/21/2017 6:06:50 AM PST by x1stcav (We have the guns. Do we have the will?)
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To: the OlLine Rebel; x1stcav

I usually do two searches, one in keyword and one in title...............


15 posted on 11/21/2017 6:07:47 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: x1stcav

Very interesting, thanks.


16 posted on 11/21/2017 6:16:35 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Red Badger

I search using a word in the title aka “dirty”


17 posted on 11/21/2017 6:20:04 AM PST by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: x1stcav
I recently had the opportunity (?) to be treated at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester Minnesota. During a lull in my schedule, I attended a tour of the clinic that included a review of its history. The original Dr. Mayo was a Civil War surgeon who returned to the sleepy little country town of Rochester after the war. He started the clinic there.

He was one of the first to use both antiseptics as well as anesthesia in his surgeries. Not so surprisingly, his patients found that his surgeries not only didn't hurt, but THEY SURVIVED! This helped lead to the popularity of the Mayo Clinic today.

An interesting display there was the microscope Dr. Mayo bought to aid in his analysis and record keeping. (Mayo keeps detailed patient records of outcomes, allowing doctors to look back at successful, as well as less successful procedures.) The microscope cost $600. Dr. Mayo mortgaged his house for ten years in order to be able to make the purchase.

18 posted on 11/21/2017 7:03:56 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The stone age didn't end because we ran out of stones.)
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But, I have it on good authority (Facebook) that germs and viruses were designed back in the Dark Ages specifically to target and kill of American Indians. Why else would such nasty things be invented way back then!

Sarc/off


19 posted on 11/21/2017 7:38:13 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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If discovering that previous thread in your search would have dissuaded you from posting your thread, I and others would have missed the underlying article entirely and been the poorer for it. So, I suggest that in the future you search in order to link to the other article, but please do go ahead and post anyway—if the article was important enough for your attention, please offer it to us as well.


20 posted on 11/21/2017 9:02:44 AM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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